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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 17 April 2010 at 1:24pm | IP Logged
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My commercial 45, confirmed as A&M 871, has a listed time of (3:58), but an actual time of (4:11). Current database CD timngs for this song (all stereo) range from (4:06) to (4:08). My 45 is styrene, with deadwax of "A+M 1334-1". Does anyone happen to own a promo 45 for this one? I wonder if there was possibly a shorter version sent radio's way, to increase their late 1967 chances for airplay...
Edited by jimct on 17 April 2010 at 1:26pm
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Posted: 17 April 2010 at 5:59pm | IP Logged
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Jim, I don't have a promo copy, but my stock copy, which also has a listed time of (3:58) runs an actual (4:09). It's a west coast Monarch pressing, with matrix number "A+M 1334 RE-2-16" and delta number 67908.
Might there be a mix difference here?
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Posted: 18 April 2010 at 10:29pm | IP Logged
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I thought I had a promo copy however mine is only a stock issue (styrene - it is mono, also). Deadwax reads (handwritten) A&M 1334-2, there are also separately machine stamped J (just to the left of the handwriting) and a machine stamped 3 opposite the handwriting. It has an actual time of (4:11) but the fadeout is long and between 4:07 and 4:11 is all but overpowered by the groove noise on my 45.
Edited by TomDiehl1 on 19 April 2010 at 11:53pm
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 5:56am | IP Logged
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I have both a promo & stock copy of this song and other than the promo copy being in stereo do not notice a difference between the two. I'll verify this when I get a chance.
I got the promo copy during the song's chart run, and only had a mono turntable at the time...I recall hearing a slight pre-echo when playing it. This pre-echo is not there when folding down a stereo cartridge.
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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Posted: 20 September 2010 at 12:36am | IP Logged
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I found a promotional copy of this single in a record store on Saturday so I picked it up (the price was right -- $2).
Both sides have a listed time of (3:58) and have an actual run time of (4:11). As with my stock copy, the last few seconds are very quiet on the fade out (but this is a much quieter pressing than my stock copy).
On the first side, the matrix numbers read: A&M-1334-15 followed by the monarch symbol and delta 67908.
The second side has a matrix of: A&M-1334-16 followed by the monarch symbol and delta 67908.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 06 May 2013 at 5:04pm | IP Logged
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my commercial 45 issued as a&m 871 states the run time as
3:58 but actually runs 4:08 and is identical, except for he
mono/stereo difference, to the 'best of' cd version....my
run out groove etching is 'A+M 1334-1'....no delta symbol
at all.....
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