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The small California label that released/had the hit with this song (Double Shot) actually continued to press up yellow-label, originally-numbered, #104 stock copies of this 45 well into the 70's (they also did the same for some of Brenton Wood's 1967 Top 40 hits.) Whereas my later "Psychotic Reaction" pressing has the "target" design on the left side of the label, my 1966 original 45 has the word "Double" in smaller, bold print, followed by a hypen, with the "target" appearing where the "O" in the word "SHOT" would appear. Finally, a small "every shot counts" appears on original 1966 pressings. I did not bother to time the newer copy (and it may run exactly the same as the original), but I just wanted to mention this rather unusual scenario, in case folks with a later pressing may think they own an original. My 1966 copy is styrene, with deadwax of "104-A (DS-107)", and written with a rather unsteady hand. It has a listed time of (2:56) and an actual time of (2:58). I only post this info because the vast majority of the many CDs that include this song have slightly longer runtimes, between (3:03) to (3:05). Sadly, the only 3 database CDs including a version that runs under (3:00) all happen to feature low-quality, (E) recordings of the song.
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Jim, "Psychotic Reaction" could easily have been the term to describe the feeling at Double-Shot once they realized that they had to get their suddenly-hot property pressed in huge quantities, pronto! :) As a result, several pressing plants were put to work to crank it out.
I loved the record and immediately wore out my original styrene Columbia pressing, and have picked up subsequent copies about as often as the cat lady on The Simpsons picks up strays. I happened to have the label from my college station's on-air copy (likewise a Columbia Terre Haute stock pressing) already scanned. This badly cue-burned copy was retired once the 1972 Elektra Nuggets LP appeared. It is identical to my original copy. Listed time is (2:56), actual is (3:07.)
I replaced my worn-out original in the early '70s with one that bore the same label copy, but had a brighter yellow color. It looks like a Monarch pressing, but bears neither the familiar Monarch deadwax logo nor a delta number. Listed time is (2:56), actual is (2:57.)
Somewhere along the line, I also picked up a used Rainbo vinyl pressing which has some slightly different label copy. It includes Double-Shot's phone number along with my favorite non-performing label credit of all time: "Promotion in Motion: Irwin Zucker." Lest anyone think that this vinyl pressing is some kind of holy grail, let me assure you that the plastic is of a very low grade. This pressing uses the same mother lacquer as the Monarch-pressed copy above, and the timing matches at (2:57.)
The (3:07) Columbia Terre-Haute pressing is pitched slightly faster than the Monarch and Rainbo copies, but not significantly so (only about .3 second faster toward the end.) Its fade begins only about a second or two later than that on the two (2:57) pressings, with the latter two being faded out significantly earlier.
The original Double-Shot logo didn't last long at all. Both my mono copy of the LP (purchased in December, 1966) and the follow-up 45, "Peace Of Mind" bore the newer "two-bullet" design, as did the LP cover. The hyphen in the Double-Shot name was also dropped at that point, and the label had moved to fancier digs on Sunset Boulevard.
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I appreciate the detailed label history, Jim, and photo scans, Yah Shure!
One of the themes we're seeing as Jim admirably and laboriously times each and every 1960s Top 40 hit from his massive vinyl 45 library is that the 45 commonly runs more than :03 longer or shorter than the song's length on CD. Of course, I'm always grateful in a case like "Psychotic Reaction" where the longer CD length can easily be faded to match the 45 length. The big killer for some of us die-hard collectors is when a mono 45 runs significantly longer (say, :03 to :10) than its only-available-in-stereo-on-CD counterpart!
Yah Shure, have you timed "Psychotic Reaction" on your LP copy to see if the song actually runs closer to the 3:03-3:05 length typically found on CD?
Edited by Todd Ireland on 15 May 2010 at 9:47am
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Todd Ireland wrote:
| Yah Shure, have you timed "Psychotic Reaction" on your LP copy to see if the song actually runs closer to the 3:03-3:05 length typically found on CD? |
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Here are the timings of what I'd mentioned above:
45s: (2:57) - Monarch & Rainbo pressings.
(3:07) - Columbia Terre Haute pressings.
mono LP: (3:05.945)
There is a speed difference between the Monarch & Rainbo 45 pressings and the mono LP. The LP track actually runs faster; a tad over 1.6 seconds faster than the 45 at the end. The 45 fade begins earlier than the LP track fade.
The 45 wins the sonics battle here; the LP track lacks the kick and punch of the bass and drums found on the 45.
Edited by Yah Shure on 05 August 2016 at 9:15am
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Thanks for confirming the length and speed difference between the 45 and LP, Yah Shure.
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my commercial 45 issued as double-shot 104 states the run
time as 2:56 but actually runs 3:03 and is the same speed
and version as the nuggets from nuggets cd..my runout
groove info is "ds 107 104-a"....can all who have the
commercial 45 confirm their run times...thx edtop40
Edited by edtop40 on 05 November 2011 at 4:51pm
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The unedited version ends differently and cold..as I
find out on a mp3 I've got...THAT reveals that the hit
45 was looped over (a la Chicago's "Beginnings" or the
promo of Pacific Gas & Electric's "Are You Ready"...)
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Wow, thanks Steve for pointing out there was an unedited
version. In all these years I never heard of it. I also
never noticed the fast break at the end was merely the
one from the middle tacked on the end.
For anyone else curious to hear the original ending it is
on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPahGkhfjA0
Awesome!
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Yes that unedited version appeared on the CD "Psychotic Revelation:
The Ultimate Count Five" on Big Beat in 2003. Great to hear it that way.
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Can I assume correctly that the mono 45 did NOT feature
the flange effect found on the (E) stereo LP version?
I ask because I dubbed what I thought was an original
pressing. But based on the above info it must me one of
the many many re-pressings. It's also in (E) stereo with
stereo reverb added, and has the flange effect. But oddly
it's NOT the same as the (E) LP version I've always heard.
On this 45, it's not channel-delayed like the LP but
rather the delay is centered and the stereo reverb is
added on top of that. Very bizarre.
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Your assumption is correct, Mark: there was no flange present on the original mono 45 (or at least on the three different mono pressings I have.)
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Which version appears on the mono LP?
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Pat Downey wrote:
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Pat, it's the same dry mix that's on the original 1966 mono 45. No fake stereo, no extra reverb and no added flange effects.
Sound quality is sub-par compared to the original mono 45 pressings, but it is the same mix.
(BTW, I just added timing details to my earlier post.)
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