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aaronk
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Posted: 05 February 2006 at 12:55am \| IP Logged

There's no mention in the database of it, but I have a DJ CD single of "Poison" which contains 2 versions: the "No Ho Version" and 7" Version. The 7" Version sounds exactly like the LP version to my ears. The "No Ho Version" which runs the same length as the LP/7" version (4:21) is the exact same mix---just removing the two occurances of the word "ho."

Also, I have commercial & promo copies of "Do Me" and neither disc has the LP version on it; however, I don't ever remember hearing any other version on the radio except the LP verison. I do recall the video for the song using the opening of the LP version & then switching to the "Radio Mentality" mix from the promo CD single (which has the lyrics "hip hop smoothed out on the r&b tip..." at the end). I'm guessing the cassette single and vinyl 7" have the LP version?

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Posted: 05 February 2006 at 8:17am \| IP Logged

yes.....the versions from the cassingles and the cd/lp's are the same........"poison" runs 4:23 and "do me!" runs 4:34 and yes the single and lp versions are identical....

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Posted: 23 May 2009 at 9:08am \| IP Logged

I've searched high and low for evidence of the LP version of "Do Me" being issued on promo CD, but I haven't come across a listing yet. Does anyone know if a separate promo exists besides the one with remixes?

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Posted: 23 May 2009 at 10:48am \| IP Logged

Does anyone know if the instrumentals for these have ever been issued on CD? I have searched high and low, and found nothing.

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Posted: 23 May 2009 at 10:58am \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

You don't give a catalog no. above, but for FWIW, the only U.S. promo CD single shown for "Do Me!" in Gregory Cooper's 1998 book, "Collectible Compact Disc Price Guide 2", is on "MCA 18382"...

However, he does list the existence of TWO for "Poison": "MCA CD45 18183" and "MCA CD45 18218"...

Sorry, no versions or timings given for any of the above promos...

Always liked both songs, and even went so far as to buy the cassette maxi-single of "Do Me!" back when it was a hit in 1990...

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Posted: 24 May 2009 at 12:55am \| IP Logged

Aaron & Brian, I went to box #1 of my 1990 promo CD singles, and what I found in there exactly matches up with the "sounds-like-a-great-book" info that 80smusicfreak referenced above. Here are the full details:

Bell Biv DeVoe-"Poison" (CD45-18183) (this one came into the station first)
1-(non-described version) (listed & actual 4:22)

Bell Biv DeVoe-"Poison" (CD45-18218)
1-Poison (No Ho Version) (listed 4:25; actual 4:22)
2-Poison (7" Version) (listed 4:25; actual 4:22)

Bell Biv DeVoe-"Do Me!" (CD45-18382)
1-Do Me! (Radio Mentality) (listed 5:16; actual 5:15)
2-Do Me! (East Coast Mental Mix) (listed & actual 5:31)
3-Do Me! (Smoothed Out Version) (listed & actual 3:16)
4-Do Me! (Mentality Hip Hop) (listed 8:35; actual 8:53)

Brian, FYI, none of these 4 tracks above happen to be instrumentals. Aaron, there could always be another promo CD single out there for "Do Me!", that I never saw, that may have had the LP Version you're looking for on it, but to date I do not either own one or know of one that does. However, MCA told us that "Do Me!" was gonna be the next "single", and I do remember us playing it off of the full CD for the first week or two. Then, when the promo CD single came in, now that I recall, we still liked the LP version better, never switched over, and played the LP version on-air during its entire chart run at our station. Maybe other stations felt the same way we did about the song, sir!

Edited by jimct on 24 May 2009 at 1:04am

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Posted: 24 May 2009 at 3:57pm \| IP Logged

Thanks for posting that info, Jim. It's very possible that a separate LP version promo was never issued, even though I've never heard any of the remixes on the air.

Brian, I don't think an instrumental for either song exists on CD, either. I've looked, too.

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Posted: 24 May 2009 at 6:44pm \| IP Logged

I don't think I've ever heard the official "no ho" edit of "Poison". The CHR I was music director at for much of the 90s didn't go CHR until 1994, and (for some reason) didn't get serviced with this as a current in 1990 when they were soft AC! All I had to work with when I produced an edit for on-air use was a commercial copy. The only instance of that term I noticed was about midway thru the song where they said "keepin' one eye open still clockin' the ho". I replaced "clockin' the ho" with drumbeats from elsewhere in the song (or maybe I used the instrumental side...it's been a long time and I didn't save a copy of my edit of this one). Where was the other "ho" in the song?

As far as the instrumentals go, for some reason MCA put an instrumental version of the A side on the B side of their 45s in lieu of an actual other song. I don't know why.

Edited by Hykker on 24 May 2009 at 6:46pm

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Posted: 24 May 2009 at 8:12pm \| IP Logged

Thanks for info on the 'no ho' version. I've got an order placed on Musicstack.

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Posted: 24 May 2009 at 9:22pm \| IP Logged

Hykker wrote:

Where was the other "ho" in the song?

"The local ho / she'll be cut like an afro."

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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 6:12am \| IP Logged

Thanks to eriejwg for the mp3 of the "official" edit of this. I was a bit surprised that they left in the word "clockin'", which we were more concerned about getting complaints on than the word "ho". I took out the "clockin' the ho" phrase & replaced it with drumbeats from elsewhere in the song. Even so, I doubt this got any daytime airplay (being in a decidedly non-urban/rhythmic market). The station lost a lot of office/business listenership during a brief foray into AAA, we weren't about to repeat the mistake!

During my 8 year tenure as music director at this particular CHR we made any number of custom edits of songs. I only saved copies of a handful of them.

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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 7:15am \| IP Logged

Hykker wrote:

I was a bit surprised that they left in the word "clockin'", which we were more concerned about getting complaints on than the word "ho".

I'm curious to know why your station thought "clockin'" would be offensive. In this context, it's merely slang for "watching," although there may be a definition that I'm not aware of.

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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 11:04am \| IP Logged

I wouldn't think that "Clockin'" is nearly as offensive as "gettin' laid", or "me and the crew used to do her" which is still both in all versions of the song.

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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 1:25pm \| IP Logged

Good point, Steve. There are definitely other "colorful" phrases in the song that could have raised an eyebrow back in the day. We always played the LP version from a TM Century GoldDisc, and I don't recall anyone complaining.

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Posted: 09 January 2011 at 5:05pm \| IP Logged

regarding the song "do me" i have a german import cd single issued as mca 9031-72498-2LO with the below tracks

1-uk edit (3:32 listed; 3:32 actual)
2-mentally hip hop mix (8:53 listed; 8:53 actual)
3-east coast mental mix (5:37 listed; 5:29 actual)

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Posted: 09 July 2014 at 7:15pm \| IP Logged

I have this promo:
http://www.discogs.com/Bell-Biv-Devoe-Poison/release/1582083

Why is the "radio edit" running 5:27? Also the no listed version is also running 5:27.

Edited by chendagam on 09 July 2014 at 7:17pm

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Posted: 09 July 2014 at 9:11pm \| IP Logged

Perhaps you could pop on your 12" promo if it's accessible, but I think
those are all remixes. The "radio edit" and non-described version are
shorter edits of the "Mental Mix". I believe one of the New Edition
compilations that feature solo hits uses one of the 5:27 versions.

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