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Dale in Edmontn MusicFan
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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 6:40pm | IP Logged
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Hi everyone, The database says that the DJ edit of this song plays 3:33 as opposed to the 4:19 album cut. Does anybody have any info on this one? Is the edit an album fade or are there edit points? Thanks!
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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 7:08pm | IP Logged
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I'm pretty sure the commercial 45 is the same as the short side of the
DJ 45. Also, I believe it is an edit of the LP version.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 8:59pm | IP Logged
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I can verify that the 45 for Burton Cummings' "You Saved My Soul" is indeed an edit of the LP version because I successfully replicated it years ago via my digital editing software. Unfortunately, I don't recall exactly where the edits occur...
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Paul C MusicFan
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Posted: 17 August 2012 at 12:44pm | IP Logged
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Dale, the US commercial 45 is an edit of the LP version. The Canadian 45 is the full LP version.
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Dale in Edmontn MusicFan
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 8:38am | IP Logged
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Thanks for the help and clarification on this, everyone!
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 9:30am | IP Logged
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I, too, did an edit to match the US 45 years ago, and don't recall the exact points. But on the album version, there's a double first verse. On the single, it's half as long, and there's a very tricky spot used to get the edit to sound smooth like the 45. If I recall, it was after the line "oh baby it was so wrong" and then going to the line "something in the bottom of my heart". I remember attempting this once, where the EQ on his voice suddenly changed - sounding very much like a forced edit (which is not how the 45 sounds), and then getting the edit right on 2nd attempt.
Also, there's also an edit in the bridge in a very weird place - in the middle of a sentence, such that a new sentence is the outcome. In the single version, it goes, "you picked me up at the bottom, love". On the original, it goes "you picked me up at the bottom" (without the word "love") into a whole new line - "You saved my soul, save me honey, go and save me in the morning, love". And they cut right before the word "love" to get the 45 version.
There very well may be more than these 2 edits but those 2 were the trickiest, so they stand out clearly.
And besides the longer US LP version (=Canadian 45 version), there's also like a 7 minute version in a film called "Melanie."
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I recreated the 45 edit from the LP version on The Burton Cummings Collection.
Segment 1:
60 beats long, ends on downbeat after the word "wrong"
Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:31.0 on both the 45 edit and the LP version.
Remove the 64 beats from 0:31.0 to 1:03.8 of the LP version.
Segment 2:
about 235-and-a-half beats long (+/-1?)
This segment ends at a tom-tom hit immediately after the second syllable in the word "bottom"; it would end exactly where a third syllable would fall in the word "bottom".
Extends from 0:31.0 to 2:31.0 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 1:03.8 to 3:03.9 of the LP version.
Remove the 16 beats from 3:03.9 to 3:12.0 of the LP version.
Segment 3:
Starts with "love the.." or "of the..." and continues to end of song
Extends from 2:31.0 to 3:40.9 (end) of the 45 edit.
Extends from 3:12.0 to 4:21.9 (end) of the LP version.
You mixdown will run 3:39 without outro silence, or 3:40.9 with the outro silence, with edits at 0:31.0 and 2:31.0.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 07 February 2014 at 8:05am
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