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edtop40 MusicFan
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my commercial 45 for the beach boys song 'i can hear music'
issued as capitol 2432 states the run time on the label as
2:38 but actually runs 2:37...the db states the 45 runs
2:33.....pat, can you check as to where that info came
from?
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Jimct reported the length as (2:33) on June 13, 2008. Just do a search for "I Can Hear Music" as a topic and you will find his report.
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Ed, my 1969, Capitol 2432 commercial 45 copy has deadwax info of "S-45-
71521-H3 #3". Yours?
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my capitol 2432 release has 'S-45-71521-H2' in the runout
groove.....
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Just to make things interesting, my stock copy's actual run time is the average of both of yours: 2:35.
Deadwax is S-45-71521-H2 #2 (the "#2" being lighter-etched than the rest.) It's a Scranton Capitol pressing, as indicated by the International Association of Machinists logo (the letters "I A M" inside a triangle) stamped in the deadwax.
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In the database for "I Can Hear Music," is the following: (E) (2:24) Capitol 29638 20-20. I believe this a single-disc reissue of Capitol 93697, so the reissue probably has same master.
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Pat:
Although I don't have this CD, Capitol 29638 should have the same 2:37 length of this tune in stereo as 93697. The information would be for the track "Do It Again," which is already listed.
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Anyone know of any stereo versions of the song? It seems that they are all E or in Mono......
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It's stereo on every US CD it's on. I believe it was stereo on the 1969 20/20 LP.
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The Beach Boys' "I Can Hear Music" is special to me because
it was the first true stereo mix I had ever heard where no
instruments were placed (or mostly panned) specifically
left or right. If an instrument was placed on the right, a
similar instrument would be tracked on the left. Thought it
was pretty novel.
I didn't realize at the time that would pretty much become
the mixing engineer norm a few years later...
Andy
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PopArchivist wrote:
Anyone know of any stereo versions of the song? It seems that they are all E or in
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davidclark wrote:
It's stereo on every US CD it's on. I believe it was stereo on the 1969
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Both the commercial and promo 45s were stereo as well (though neither was indicated as such). It's the earliest
stereo Capitol 45 in my collection. I have never come across this song in mono.
AndrewChouffi wrote:
The Beach Boys' "I Can Hear Music" is special to me because
it was the first true stereo mix I had ever heard where no
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I'm a bit on the fence as to whether this is true stereo or (E) for the very reasons you mention. I've never
done any sort of electronic analysis, but just listening it's tough to pick out any individual
componenent...whether vocal or instrumental. If it is true stereo, you're right...it was a very futuristic mix
for 1969.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
The Beach Boys' "I Can Hear Music" is special to me because
it was the first true stereo mix I had ever heard where no
instruments were placed (or mostly panned) specifically
left or right. If an instrument was placed on the right, a
similar instrument would be tracked on the left. Thought it
was pretty novel.
I didn't realize at the time that would pretty much become
the mixing engineer norm a few years later...
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I think that's why I thought it was mono. It didn't sound like a stereo track from that era usually does. I just thought my ears were not hearing the stereo really well or I just thought it was E based on that.
Edited by PopArchivist on 14 August 2023 at 8:10pm
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Hykker wrote:
I'm a bit on the fence as to whether this
is true stereo or (E) for the very reasons you mention.
I've never done any sort of electronic analysis, but just
listening it's tough to pick out any individual
componenent...whether vocal or instrumental. If it is
true stereo, you're right...it was a very futuristic mix
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Put on a pair of your favorite audiophile headphones.
Select a dub of this cut that has no noise-reduction.
Heaven. (Especially those background vox.)
Andy
Edited by AndrewChouffi on 15 August 2023 at 3:46am
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