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Paul C MusicFan
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Posted: 05 January 2013 at 9:51am | IP Logged
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The run times of the song "Ain't It True" by Andy Williams on the two CDs listed in the database are (2:41) and (2:53). I timed my U.S. commercial 45 (Columbia 453358) at (2:43) as the label indicates.
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 14 April 2013 at 4:13pm | IP Logged
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my commercial 45 issued as columbia 43358 lists the run
time on the label as 2:43 but only runs 2:41....you'll need
to fade for 0:07 from 2:34 to 2:41 on the cd 'complete
columbia chart singles colection' to effectively re-create
the vinyl 45 version.....my run out groove info is machine
stamped 'RZSP-72651-3D'....
Edited by edtop40 on 14 April 2013 at 4:14pm
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jono MusicFan
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Posted: 16 July 2013 at 1:54pm | IP Logged
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Oddly, my 45 of "Ain't It True" by Andy Williams on Columbia 4-43358 only runs 2:09. It seems to be just faded early, beginning at about the 2:01 mark and ending with "Ain't it true, girl", where it comes to a quiet and abrupt ending. My run out groove info is RZSP-72651-2G.
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Posted: 16 July 2013 at 2:24pm | IP Logged
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2:09?? No wonder Andy tries to cram so many lyrics into the record! :)
My DJ 45 (Pitman pressing, RZSP-72651-3E deadwax) lists at (2:43) and runs (2:42).
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Hykker MusicFan
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Posted: 16 July 2013 at 5:47pm | IP Logged
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Yah Shure wrote:
My DJ 45 (Pitman pressing, RZSP-72651-3E deadwax) lists at
(2:43) and runs (2:42). |
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My promo agrees with yours.
I wonder how this song was received by Andy's fans back in
1965...it's quite a departure from his usual style.
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Posted: 16 July 2013 at 7:08pm | IP Logged
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Hykker wrote:
I wonder how this song was received by Andy's fans back in
1965...it's quite a departure from his usual style.
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Good question! The failure of "Ain't It True" to chart MOR (and not that many months after Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues had done so) leads me to wonder whether the record might have been a one-shot, calculated move on Andy's part to tailor a slightly harder, more contemporary-sounding effort for the top 40 market, in an effort to broaden his appeal with the younger crowd. If it got even a few of the kids to check out his NBC-TV show, so much the better. Maybe that was the primary goal of the record in the first place. Did Columbia even work the record at the MOR level?
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jono MusicFan
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Posted: 16 July 2013 at 7:55pm | IP Logged
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Yah Shure wrote:
2:09?? No wonder Andy tries to cram
so many lyrics into the record! :) |
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Yeah, he does cram a lot in there! Not a typical "Andy Williams" song.
I listened to my copy about 5 times through just to make sure there
wasn't a major skip that I didn't pick up on, then compared it to the
version on the Taragon Cd (Complete Columbia Chart Singles
Collection) and discovered the (very) early fade. Maybe a minor speed
variation but it seemed to match up well until the fade.
I forgot to mention that my 45 also has a listed time of (2:43).
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