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rnell
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Does anybody know if there is any accurate source for a list of all Top 40 45s that have been commercially issued with a picture sleeve (or available in promos)? Following information in Joel Whitburn books, I´ve been searching for some picture sleeves through Ebay for some time now which I have never seen for sale (for example Osmonds' One bad apple or Cat Stevens' Two fine people).
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Brian W.
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"One Bad Apple" must be an error in the book, but there definitely was a US picture sleeve for "Two Fine People" -- Whitburn shows a photo of it on his Music Vault website. (Which I can't post because it's pay-only.) It must be rare, though -- I am unable to find another photo of it on the Internet.
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Brian W. wrote:
| It must be rare, though -- I am unable to find another photo of it on the Internet. |
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It could be that the "Two Fine People" picture sleeve surfaced at only one plant during the latter stages of the single's pressing run. Both of the promo copies I received came in standard factory sleeves.
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The "One Bad Apple" PS does exist. It credits the group as The Osmond Brothers. We put it on a disc of rare picture sleeves several years ago.
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Paul Haney wrote:
| The "One Bad Apple" PS does exist. It credits the group as The Osmond Brothers. We put it on a disc of rare picture sleeves several years ago. |
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Mm... I was just assuming because it's not shown in the Record Research MusicVault.
Another uber-rare one is the P/S for "Holly Jolly Christmas" by Burl Ives. Not sure if that was promotional-only or what.
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As a source I have used a book by Charles Szabla (45rpm picture sleeve price guide)together with Joel Whitburn´s Top pop singles book. The former doesn't list picture sleeves such as Eddie Money's "Take me home tonight", Paul Simon's "Gone at last" or Supertramp's "Bloody well right". I wonder if there is another book (or webpage) on this subject.
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Brian W. wrote:
Paul Haney wrote:
| The "One Bad Apple" PS does exist. It credits the group as The Osmond Brothers. We put it on a disc of rare picture sleeves several years ago. |
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Mm... I was just assuming because it's not shown in the Record Research MusicVault.
Another uber-rare one is the P/S for "Holly Jolly Christmas" by Burl Ives. Not sure if that was promotional-only or what. |
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I just realized that we actually have a picture of the "One Bad Apple" sleeve on page 672 of our latest Top Pop Singles book!
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rnell wrote:
| As a source I have used a book by Charles Szabla (45rpm picture sleeve price guide)together with Joel Whitburn´s Top pop singles book. The former doesn't list picture sleeves such as Eddie Money's "Take me home tonight", Paul Simon's "Gone at last" or Supertramp's "Bloody well right". I wonder if there is another book (or webpage) on this subject. |
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I have Szabla's book too - a while it's great, there's a lot of stuff missing from it. I'd love to see an updated webpage or something from somewhere. I believe that Szabla wanted to produce a second edition of his book, but I heard the publishing company wasn't interested.
Is every sleeve that charted on the Hot 100 shown in the Record Research vault? The reason I ask is because there are a number of sleeves I've been on the hunt for forever, and I'm wondering if they actually exist. If they do, I'd at least like to see what they look like:
stuff like:
Alarm "Sold Me Down the River"
Marty Balin "What Love Is"
Carpenters "Sweet Sweet Smile"
Donnie Iris "Injured in the Game of Love"
Police "Walking on the Moon" (1986 version)
Kenny Rogers "Christmas in America"
Anyone have any info on the above? Do all of those sleeves actually exist? I'd love to track down copies...
Edited by torcan on 07 March 2013 at 3:38pm
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Ian, of those sleeves that you mentioned above, I see pictures for 3 of them in the Music Vault (Alarm, Carpenters & Donnie Iris). Not every sleeve was photographed for the Music Vault, but the majority of them were. If we list it in the book, then we have a copy of it in our collection. IMO, our Top Pop Singles book is the single best source for finding out if a chart hit came with a picture sleeve. Some of them a quite scarce and finding a copy can take years.
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torcan wrote:
rnell wrote:
| As a source I have used a book by Charles Szabla (45rpm picture sleeve price guide)together with Joel Whitburn´s Top pop singles book. The former doesn't list picture sleeves such as Eddie Money's "Take me home tonight", Paul Simon's "Gone at last" or Supertramp's "Bloody well right". I wonder if there is another book (or webpage) on this subject. |
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I have Szabla's book too - a while it's great, there's a lot of stuff missing from it. I'd love to see an updated webpage or something from somewhere. I believe that Szabla wanted to produce a second edition of his book, but I heard the publishing company wasn't interested.
Is every sleeve that charted on the Hot 100 shown in the Record Research vault? The reason I ask is because there are a number of sleeves I've been on the hunt for forever, and I'm wondering if they actually exist. If they do, I'd at least like to see what they look like:
stuff like:
Alarm "Sold Me Down the River"
Marty Balin "What Love Is"
Carpenters "Sweet Sweet Smile"
Donnie Iris "Injured in the Game of Love"
Police "Walking on the Moon" (1986 version)
Kenny Rogers "Christmas in America"
Anyone have any info on the above? Do all of those sleeves actually exist? I'd love to track down copies...
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Since I've never been a huge fan of vinyl, I haven't actually bought Charles Szabla's book myself, but have flipped through it several times in the past when I've run across it in book stores; more than once I've contemplated adding it to my large library of music books, though. Then in October of 2011, I bought an old 45 on eBay, and the seller turned out to be Szabla himself; his user i.d. there is (what else???) "picturesleeves". (Ironically, the 45 I bought from him was never issued with a p/s, lol.) Got the record from him quick, and was quite happy w/ it. So if you're also on eBay, you can contact him directly through there re: what's missing from his book and whether or not he plans a new edition down the road...
I'm actually a huge Donnie Iris fan; he's one of the few artists that I also collect on vinyl. Don't have the "Injured..." 45 with a p/s, but have seen it on eBay a few times over the last decade. Commercial/stock copies of that single's follow-up, "State of the Heart" (which didn't come with a p/s) are just as rare; there's actually one on eBay right now (first one I've seen in years); picked up a copy myself about 12 years ago. Also, be sure to track down his first single, 1979's "Bring on the Eighties"/"Because of You" (on the indie Midwest National label), as neither ever appeared on any of his albums. Oh, and can someone please tell me why the fabulous "Do You Compute?" wasn't at least a top 40 hit?!? :-)
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www.45cat.com shows the US picture sleeve, rnell. It's a great resource. (They don't have either of the first two sleeves you listed in the thread, though.)
http://www.45cat.com/record/2008s
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