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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:05pm | IP Logged Quote anthology123
I have the 45 version on a Columbia CD3 I picked up in the early 90s. Are
there any other CDs out there? I never bought Collection of Great Dance
Songs, so I don't know if that is the same version. The volume level of the
CD3 is actually a bit low compared to other CDs I have.
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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:20pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94
The Collection of Great Dance Songs CD version has the 45 version intro (the pulsating guitar that punctuated underneath the verses), but the fade out is longer (almost to the end of the LP version, but then it fades while the LP version I don't believe does).

If that makes sense.

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:24pm | IP Logged Quote anthology123
Yes, the LP version goes through the "wrong kick again" and the schoolyard
kids, and the breath before Mother. The 45 edit I have on the CD3 fades out
early, the same as the Columbia 45 (which I also have) is identical from start
to finish. Maybe the Dance Songs version is an edit of the 45 intro onto the
LP version with a newly created fade out.

Edited by anthology123 on 08 March 2006 at 2:25pm
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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:31pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94
Sounds plausible. I think if you fade the Dance Songs CD version 38 seconds early, you get the 45.

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:43pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Doug is correct. If you fade "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)" 38 seconds early on the Collection of Dance Songs CD, you do indeed end up with the correct 45 version and length.
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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 3:32pm | IP Logged Quote Grant
The 45 is the same as the version of "Dance Songs", except that it fades during the guitar solo.
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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 7:33am | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton
So are you saying that in the US, the "stock" 45 had the fade during the guitar solo at about 3:02? I had heard it this way on SOME radio stations, but I was never sure an actual record was faded that way.

The only stock 45-rpm discs in Canada I have heard were akin to the "Dance Songs" version.


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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 8:52am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
During the song's chart run I tried to create an edit with the single's intro, but the longer album fade. Turns out there are some slight mix/EQ differences between the two that were quite obvious at the point I'd originally intended to splice it. I was able to disguise it a bit by making the edit at the "hey! teacher! leave the kids alone" point. With airchain compression the edit wasn't too obvious on-air unless you knew where it was.

Apparently they used the Canadian single mix for "Dance Songs".

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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 9:46am | IP Logged Quote budaniel
When I was a kid and got the 45 (because my parents only had the Wall on an 8-track and I was a vinyl kid) I was disappointed that the 45 faded out on the guitar solo...because the version I always heard on radio was the version on "Dance Songs", which retains the "if you don't eat your meat" part from the album!!! Personally, the way I prefer the song best is with 'happiest days of our lives' track as the intro, which is the way classic rock stations play the song in NY. Unfortunately, I don't believe there has ever been a CD that includes the two songs as one track, which would be mighty convenient for ipod purposes.
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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 9:53am | IP Logged Quote sriv94
budaniel wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't believe there has ever been a CD that includes the two songs as one track, which would be mighty convenient for ipod purposes.


True, but a freeware WAV editor such as WavePad (if you don't have access to CoolEdit Pro and the like) would allow you to meld the two tracks together. Worked great for me for Beatles' stuff like "Sgt. Pepper/With A Little Help From My Friends" or "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/In The End." Or Queen's "We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions."

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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 9:59am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
sriv94 wrote:
True, but a freeware WAV editor such as WavePad (if you don't have access to CoolEdit Pro and the like) would allow you to meld the two tracks together. .....Or Queen's "We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions."


Added bonus is that it would give you the ability to tweak the gain a bit...the first :45 or so of WATC is almost inaudibly soft.
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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 11:20am | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton
budaniel wrote:
... Personally, the way I prefer the song best is with 'happiest days of our lives' track as the intro, which is the way classic rock stations play the song in NY.


What I find most classic rock stations do is simply rip the track from the album CD and then when they play it, it has a jarring start on the vocal. It sounds TERRIBLE - My Gawd! Because the index track pointer on the CD was not right before the downbeat.

Sorry, but this is a prime example of where a radio edit (with the intro can REALLY save the day)


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Posted: 11 May 2011 at 12:02pm | IP Logged Quote maciav
The new Pink Floyd remaster program coming this fall has a collection showing "Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2". I hope it really is the 45 version this time, and not the "pudding/meat" version.

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I thought I read somewhere that the version you are talking about (the
45 version intro with the LP version longer fade) was actually the
promo single version. Can anyone confirm?
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 6:46pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton
RichM921 wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that the version you are talking about (the
45 version intro with the LP version longer fade) was actually the
promo single version. Can anyone confirm?


This would describe the Canadian stock 45-rpm disc. It had the inserted intro, and the "Pudding and Meat" ending, akin to the version on "...Dance Songs". It fades earlier though than the "Wall" LP cut.

I know that CFTR in Toronto edited a version together that contained the intro, but played out the track right out to the end (phone tone beeps and an inhale and exhale).


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