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john halloran MusicFan
Joined: 06 March 2006 Location: United States
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Posted: 10 March 2006 at 4:53pm | IP Logged
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For those of you who have been waiting, the new SonyMusic release of "Santana III-Legacy Edition" does include the long awaited 45 version of "No One to Depend On". First time on disc.
This is significant as a marked departure for Sony/Legacy/Columbia/Epic, the main offender in refusing to release 45 versions and dj edits as extras on the numerous compilation discs they market, but were the label(s) most prolific at issuing 45 edits at the time (60s, 70s).
Here's hoping they continue with Loggins and Messina Legacy editions, or maybe a stand-alone volume(s) of all the numerous edits and alternate 45 versions they released back in the day (I know,I'm dreaming).
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sriv94 MusicFan
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Posted: 10 March 2006 at 5:19pm | IP Logged
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Excellent find, John. Just downloaded it off of iTunes.
Now, they need to do the same for "Oye Como Va" (never been issued) and the true 45s of "Hold On" and "You Know That I Love You" (I believe those 45s are gettable but with extended endings).
Edited by sriv94 on 10 March 2006 at 5:20pm
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 10 March 2006 at 8:54pm | IP Logged
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I'm not sure I'm familiar with the 45 version of "No One to Depend On". Is it an edit of the LP version, or is it a different mix?
By the way, the following Santana hits can be found in their correct 45 version form and length on the group's The Ultimate Collection Dutch import 3-CD set (Sony Music Media SMMTV12):
"She's Not There" - 3:13
"You Know That I Love You" - 3:28
"Hold On" - 3:51
The CD package claims the contents of this three disc set are "all original re-mastered single versions". This is not correct though because many of the songs on here are LP versions. This best-of collection is still in print and can be purchased new for less than $20 on retail websites like half.com.
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john halloran MusicFan
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 5:20pm | IP Logged
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It IS an edit of the LP version, with a two second loop from the instrumental break in the middle of the song at the beginning of the record. However, the ending is a cold two-note sting, whereas the LP version used an echo effect of the sting, and faded it over the following track on the LP. I don't know how you'll recreate the ending.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:42pm | IP Logged
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One can recreate the ending of the single edit with the lp version by doing what Columbia did--put a reverb blast on the last two notes (excising the seven echo trails).
Andy
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