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There are two very different cuts of this song. the 17:35 version and the 17:47 version are not the same. Perhaps one is the 12" single and the other is the album version, although on my Donna Summer "Deluxe Bad Girls" and "The Dance Collection" CDs, they are both listed as the 12" single. Comparing the two songs to try and figure out why there was a 10 second difference in length, I noted that the mixes are edited differently. This becomes apparent when the song "One of a Kind" comes into the medley. On both CDs, the song begins at about the 8:27 mark...but on the Bad Girls deluxe edition it ENDS at 11:45, and on the Dance Collection, it ends a whole minute later at 12:45!!! I haven't determined it yet, but I'm guessing perhaps "heaven knows" is going to prove to be longer on the Bad Girls version to make up for the lost time...
Anyone with any input into this discrepancy?
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budaniel
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Okay. On the Deluxe Bad Girls version, "Heaven Knows" is approximately 3:24, on "The Dance Collection", it is about 2:36.
Question is, why the alternate cuts? Is it a 12" version/LP version difference?
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Hi Budaniel,
The one with the shorter "Heaven Knows" is the *original* LP version.
The one with the longer "Heaven Knows" is the 12" version. Please remember this 12" single was released after the second 45, "Heaven Knows" (longer, with sax break) was issued. Casablanca re-edited the longer single version in and (curiously) edited a little of "One Of A Kind" out.
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I figured that was the reasoning behind it, just wanted to verify. thanks. So that means Pat needs to correct the database, because under MacArthur Park, he has all the long versions listed as the LP version, and the shorter version should actually be notated as the 12" single version.
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Hi
Thanks for pointing those differences out - I remembered my 12" single very well, I was very used to it before ever hearing the LP version of the medley.
I was a little annoyed each time I bought a CD that read "12" Single version" and its another copy of the LP. I figured no one noticed.
This is one of very few from that time that I still occasionally play the entire thing.
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Note to Pat, I checked the version on the Casablanca Story, and it also contains the 12" version, and it should be corrected in the database as well.
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Let me shift gears to the single version for a moment. Was there a
promo/radio version that included the piano intro but starting at the
strings was otherwise the short/stock 45? (This would make it about a
(4:16) length.) That’s the version I remember hearing on the radio, but
given that the radio station did a lot of custom versions, it could just as
easily have been that.
Edited by sriv94 on 01 December 2017 at 10:22pm
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sriv94 wrote:
Let me shift gears to the single version
for a moment. Was there a
promo/radio version that included the piano intro but
starting at the
strings was otherwise the short/stock 45? (This would
make it about a
(4:16) length.) That’s the version I remember hearing on
the radio, but
given that the radio station did a lot of custom
versions, it could just as
easily have been that. |
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My promo is 3:53/6:24 (though the label shows 3:53 on
both sides). The only other promos I've seen were actual
3:53/3:53 ones.
I remember hearing the version you describe on Canadian
stations back in '78...maybe your station was playing the
Canadian single?
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Over at 45cat, in the Canadian section, they show a 45
with a listed time of 3:59 from the album Live and More.
http://www.45cat.com/record/nb939ca
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