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crapfromthepast
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It only hit #60 in 1982, and I never heard on the radio
at all back then, but where else other than this board
would I get to discuss this song?
The song sounds superb on Rhino's 2-CD Profile
Ultimate Collection (1991). The same analog transfer
is used for Priority's Rock Of The '80s Vol. 8
(1993), and it sounds just about the same as
Ultimate.
So why, then, does Rhino's Just Can't Get Enough Vol.
6 (1994) appear to take the song from vinyl? (Very
dull high end, and no hiss at all on the fade.) Were the
45 and LP versions different, so that the 45 was
available only on vinyl and not from a tape source?
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Ron, I just pulled out my 1982 Atlantic 4030 stereo/mono promo 45 for
you, and timed the stereo side. (FYI, there are no "remix" notations on my
45's label.) Listed time (2:55); actual time (2:52). You mentioned the
possibility of a 45/LP version difference here, but didn't provide any
timing info from any of your 3 CD sources, which would've made it easier
for me to help you. So I just lifted off a couple of stacked CD boxes, to
unearth my Sparks Rhino 2-CD set. This CD states an "I Predict" time of
(2:50), but has an actual time of (2:52), just like my 45 does. To my ears
(for what little that's worth!), the two sources sound 100% identical.
To me, your question is a total puzzler, since the Sparks 2-CD set on
Rhino was released in 1991, and the Rhino V/A Just Can't Get Enough Vol.
6 came out three years later. Why not just use their 1991 digital master
for their 1994 comp? I have no explanation for you, sir......
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Thanks for the info, jimct. All three of the CD sources
have essentially the same timing, plus or minus a second or
so. There's a tiny speed difference between the two Rhino
discs, but not enough to be noticeable or significant.
My hunch was that the 45 was the same as the LP, and it's
good that you confirmed it.
Still totally baffled by the version on Just Can't Get
Enough Vol. 6...
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Hmmm, I've now detected a pattern here. Since you also recently started/revived threads for "I Ran" (A Flock of Seagulls), "Kids in America" (Kim Wilde), "Love Plus One" (Haircut One Hundred), and now "I Predict", I can only assume that - based on the perfect running order - as of late you've been obsessed(?) w/ your 1982 K-tel LP, The Beat, lol...
Actually, that compilation was where I myself first acquired "I Predict" (probably about 1986), although I'd heard the song through friends a few times previously. I don't recall hearing "I Predict" on the radio back in the day, either, but I know it must've gotten some play in SoCal, because I DO remember hearing their next hit, 1983's "Cool Places" (w/ Jane Wiedlin), on top 40 radio quite a bit - that song was my introduction to Sparks. In fact, when the Mael brothers switched to their "new wave" phase in the early '80s, they became quite popular in SoCal. Their trio of albums for Atlantic - Angst in My Pants (1982), In Outer Space (1983), and Pulling Rabbits Out of a Hat (1984) - were all big sellers there. I've since picked up about half of their '70s & '80s albums on cassette. Yet another act that should've done better here in the States (alas, no top 40 hits, and thus no entries in Pat's book/database)...
I don't have Rhino's 1991 2-CD set, Profile: The Ultimate Sparks Collection, mainly because it shockingly omits "Eaten By the Monster of Love" (also from 1982's Angst in My Pants, and was actually the follow-up to "I Predict"). And while not a hit here on the pop charts, what person our age doesn't remember that song from the 1983 teen classic, "Valley Girl"?!? Movie scene on YouTube: Sparks from "Valley Girl". What the heck was Rhino thinking?!?
Instead, for CD I have the 1993 two-disc set, The Heaven Collection and The Hell Collection, a French import from Sony Music that collects 38 of the duo's best tracks + other oddities (but sadly, still overlooks "...Monster of Love")...
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| So why, then, does Rhino's Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 6 (1994) appear to take the song from vinyl? (Very dull high end, and no hiss at all on the fade.) Were the 45 and LP versions different, so that the 45 was available only on vinyl and not from a tape source? |
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Not sure I can help you here. "I Predict" has a listed time of (2:50) and an actual time of (2:49) on The Heaven Collection, which sounds like it's from a tape source to me; The Hell Collection also features an excellent (6:28) live version from 1985. I see that jimct also posted some good info above as I was typing this up...
Your timing is also somewhat interesting, as it just so happens that last month Universal released a new 79-track, 4-CD Sparks box set over in Europe, titled New Music for Amnesiacs: The Essential Collection (includes a fifth "bonus" disc, hardbound book, and other goodies) - and next week (Nov. 25), it seems a condensed, no-frills 40-track/2-CD version will also be hitting store shelves. Both versions include their most recent "hit", 2009's "Lighten Up, Morrissey", for which they even made a video, lol: Video on YouTube
"I Predict" your next thread topic will be "I Got You" (Split Enz) - although the cassette version of The Beat switches that song & Thompson Twins' "In the Name of Love" in the running order vs. the vinyl LP... :-)
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80smusicfreak wrote:
Hmmm, I've now detected a pattern
here. Since you also recently started/revived threads for
"I Ran" (A Flock of Seagulls), "Kids in America" (Kim
Wilde), "Love Plus One" (Haircut One Hundred), and now "I
Predict", I can only assume that - based on the perfect
running order - as of late you've been obsessed(?) w/
your 1982 K-tel LP,
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Now that is an amazing coincidence! I'm actually working
my way through everything that hit the Hot 100 in 1982,
from top to bottom. If I can find interesting things to
say about "I Know What Boys Like" or "I Want Candy", I'll
be starting/reviving threads for those songs. Both of
those hit #62, and are on my radar for analysis shortly.
K-tel's The Beat is a remarkably good collection!
It doesn't hurt that the lower rungs of the Hot 100 were
especially solid in 1982.
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Oh did I play that record for a year. Still have it in fact.
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