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Another Bee Gees #1 from 1979.
LP and commercial 45 version (runs 5:01)
Sounds great on Polydor's 4-CD Tales From The Brothers Gibb (1990), where it runs 5:01 and 118.3 BPM throughout (drums recorded with a tape loop). The same analog transfer is used for Priority's Mega Hits Dance Classics Vol. 8 (1991), which fades a second or two earlier and may have a small amount of added compression.
Also sounds pretty good on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 9 1979 (1991), where it runs 5:01 and 117.9 BPM throughout.
It sounds good but not great on Polydor's 2-CD Greatest (copyright 1979), where it runs 5:00 and 118.8 BPM. It sounds like it's from a higher-generation tape source than Tales.
promo 45 edit (runs 4:10)
Unavailable on CD.
Here are editing instructions using the LP version on Tales as the source:
Segment 1
451 beats long, begins on downbeat, ends on snare
Extends from 0:00.0 to 3:49.1 of both the LP version and the promo 45 edit
Remove the 32 beats from 3:49.1 to 4:05.3 of the LP version.
Segment 2
41 beats long, begins on snare, ends on downbeat that would start the word "tragedy"
Extends from 3:49.1 to 4:09.9 of the 45 version
Extends from 4:05.3 to 4:26.1 of the LP version
Fade
32 beats long, begins and ends on downbeats that both start the word "tragedy"
Extends from 3:53.6 to 4:09.9 of the 45 version
Extends from 4:09.9 to 4:26.1 of the LP version
One edit and an early fade - this one is easy.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 06 October 2014 at 7:18am
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crapfromthepast wrote:
promo 45 edit (runs 4:10)
Unavailable on CD.
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Actually, this is available on the rare 3-CD "Too Much Heaven: Songs of the Brothers Gibb" promo collection. As noted in that thread, there is a slight amount of reverb added to the mono mix in addition to being edited. The stereo side of the promo 45 was the same longer version that was on the commercial 45, so technically an edit of the stereo version would not identically match the promo 45.
Edited by aaronk on 03 October 2014 at 11:41pm
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Wow - so the only shorter version is a dedicated mono mix
(not a fold-down), which has added reverb? And it doesn't
exist in stereo?
That's new to me!
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I'm not sure if the mono version is actually a dedicated mix or not. It
may just be a fold down with reverb added to the entire song. It's been
a while since I compared the two, but yes, there was no stereo edit
officially released that I am aware of.
In the '70s and even early '80s, there are dozens of examples where
the promo edit was only on the mono side. In most of those cases, the
mono side was just a fold-down (especially starting in the mid-'70s
when stock 45s were pretty much all stereo).
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Just out of interest, the commercial 45 here in New Zealand was the stereo edit, which matches Ron's instructions above. The only difference being, that it has a truncated fade on the 45 - ie the audio stops abruptly before it has faded right down.
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Interesting that there was a stereo edit back then, even if not in the US
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