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Posted: 22 March 2020 at 10:28am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

need a little help from you guys.....i recently bought a
new computer and every time i open itunes the default
setting for where i'd like music stored reverts back to
somewhere else.....i go into edit, preferences, advanced
and change the 'itunes media folder location' to my
external drive 'music' folder and each time i close out
the program it say C:\users\owner\music\itunes\itunes
media'....i can figure out how to change it
permanently....any idea?

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Posted: 22 March 2020 at 3:21pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

For me, that happens if I open iTunes before Windows
acknowledges an external drive. Even if the drive is
physically connected, I usually need to access it once
in Windows (e.g., clicking on the drive in Windows
Explorer) so it's active when iTunes opens.
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Posted: 24 March 2020 at 10:11am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

Ever since my Mac updated to the new OS Catalina (in October), 2,000 of my
songs purchased before 2009 need to be constantly authorized in order to
play. If at any time they are unauthorized, they won't sync to my devices and
will permanently be removed from any detailed playlist I've created. A
nightmare.

The files are all Protected AAC Files, and are fine once reauthorized, but they
fail every other day.

Apple says to just re-download the songs, but many - including all those
American Idol or Glee songs - are gone permanently from iTunes!
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Posted: 24 March 2020 at 10:54am | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

jebsib wrote:
Apple says to just re-download the songs, but many - including all those
American Idol or Glee songs - are gone permanently from iTunes!


My suggestion is to make an apple lossless copy of the itunes download and it will remove the DRM from that time period and will keep the file intact at the same bit rate it was. It won't be lossless but that is not the intent of doing it. The end result will be you can at least move on from downloads that don't exist or are not available anymore. Let me know if it works.

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Posted: 24 March 2020 at 4:41pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

Really good suggestion, PopArchivist - will try this!
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Posted: 25 March 2020 at 1:35pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

jebsib,

do you have any of the american idol version of the hits
that have been deleted?....there was another thread
listing the many songs and versions that are forever lost
to the dustbin of apples servers....if so, we'd love to
have them...

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edtop40 wrote:
jebsib,

do you have any of the american idol version of the hits
that have been deleted?....there was another thread
listing the many songs and versions that are forever lost
to the dustbin of apples servers....if so, we'd love to
have them...


I second that emotion. Please reach out to Ed or I, both of us have been trying to find many of those downloads for years...

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Posted: 25 March 2020 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

I don't have many - just a handful. Let me figure out what I have and post in
the next 24 hours.
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Ed,
I don't have a fix for the folder problem but I can tell
you my I-tunes does exactly the same thing. I kept
changing the default folder to MY choice but every time
I re-opened the program it went back to its own default.
So I just live with it.
Thank you Apple for yet another irritating bug. And my
preferred folder is not an external drive.

MM

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jebsib wrote:
I don't have many - just a handful. Let me figure out what I have and post in
the next 24 hours.


Considering they don't exist as downloads anymore anything is always better than nothing...let me know if the apple lossless trick works and removes the DRM from that time period. If not, I can suggest another way to go about it.

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MMathews wrote:
Ed,
I don't have a fix for the folder problem but I can tell
you my I-tunes does exactly the same thing. I kept
changing the default folder to MY choice but every time
I re-opened the program it went back to its own default.
So I just live with it.
Thank you Apple for yet another irritating bug. And my
preferred folder is not an external drive.

MM


Ive avoided using Itunes unless I need to. I now use foobar2000 to convert to Apple format and mp3tag to tag and edit. Honestly other than to load my Iphone with songs or downloads of unavailable songs in lossless there are better organizing software available now.

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Posted: 28 March 2020 at 10:32am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

OK - went through my iTunes library from that era and saw that many such
songs I assumed had vanished from the iTunes store (those Am Idol, Grammy
performances) were still available.

These are the songs I have that are np longer for sale:

Praying for Time - Carrie Underwood (Am Idol version)
What About Now - Daughtry (Am Idol version)
Shout to the Lord - American Idols

Cry Baby / Piece of My Heart - Melissa Etheridge & Joss Stone (2005
Grammys)
Across the Universe - Various Artists (2005 Grammys)

Trouble is these files are STILL Protected AAC files, even after PopArchivist's
really good suggestion...
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Could you convert the AAC files to FLAC or WAV using a
converter program?

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Posted: 29 March 2020 at 6:53am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

I'm going to have to get a converter program, eriejwg, thanks for the
suggestion. The alternative is constantly reauthorizing thousands of songs
that could potentially vanish from hundreds of playlists!

I still suspect this is Apple - looking solely towards the future (streaming) - and
abandoning thousands of customers who spent millions of dollars on
downloads over the years.
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jebsib wrote:
Trouble is these files are STILL Protected AAC files, even after PopArchivist's
really good suggestion...


Here is my alternative way to go. Download a free program called Virtual DJ 8 (or whatever version they are up to). If you are using it for non-monetary gain it is free if I recall.

https://www.virtualdj.com/products/virtualdj/version8.html

Now open it up after it installs on your system. Throw the protected file into one of the DJ Slots. There is a button on top that looks like a star right after the MASTER-LAATER bar on the far right. Once you open that up, you have the option to go down to RECORD and create a filename and change the format to WAV.

Now play the protected file you loaded into one of the DJ Slots. Since your computer is authorized, it should play. Press the START RECORD button. Make sure you save the .wav file on the desktop or somewhere you can find it. This should work. You will now have a .wav copy without DRM on it.

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eriejwg wrote:
Could you convert the AAC files to FLAC or WAV using a
converter program?


I once tried to convert a DRM. The protection makes that impossible. My suggestion below allows you to play and record the WAV file, which bypasses the DRM.

Considering that DRM went out of fashion many years ago and that the files were purchased I don't mind giving advice how to make a successful backup since that is legal, which is all he is doing...

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OK, I have an opposite problem. I have a bunch of protected files that play on iTunes without issue, but I need to make a change to
one of them (since there's about two seconds of space in front that shouldn't be there). I can't change the file to AAC, and loading
it into VirtualDJ (great program, BTW) only loads the first .4 (four-tenths of a second) of the song (it doesn't even find any of my
DRM files).

Any ideas?

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sriv94 wrote:
OK, I have an opposite problem. I have a bunch of protected files that play on iTunes without issue, but I need to make a change to
one of them (since there's about two seconds of space in front that shouldn't be there). I can't change the file to AAC, and loading
it into VirtualDJ (great program, BTW) only loads the first .4 (four-tenths of a second) of the song (it doesn't even find any of my
DRM files).

Any ideas?


Try converting the file within itunes to a wav file. Then find it in your itunes folder. Then edit it as a wav file in a wav editor. Wav files to my knowledge cant retain much encoding if any. Let me know if that works.

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PopArchivist wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
OK, I have an opposite problem. I have a bunch of protected files that play on iTunes without issue, but I
need to make a change to
one of them (since there's about two seconds of space in front that shouldn't be there). I can't change the file to AAC, and loading
it into VirtualDJ (great program, BTW) only loads the first .4 (four-tenths of a second) of the song (it doesn't even find any of my
DRM files).

Any ideas?


Try converting the file within itunes to a wav file. Then find it in your itunes folder. Then edit it as a wav file in a wav editor. Wav files to
my knowledge cant retain much encoding if any. Let me know if that works.


Alas, that doesn't work either. I get an error message regardless of format saying "protected files cannot be converted to other formats."

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sriv94 wrote:
Any ideas?


See if it is available on CD. What is the specific file you want? Is it available outside of Itunes? It just might be.

At this point I am sure that something exists to remove the DRM but I wouldnt pay money to download software to do that.

Just my two cents. Otherwise I cant suggest much.

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