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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 29 July 2020 at 5:48pm | IP Logged
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Has the 45 version been on CD? It times in at 3:43 I know the LP version made it but what is the difference?
Edited by PopArchivist on 29 July 2020 at 5:50pm
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eriejwg MusicFan
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I have a copy from The Cover Girls Greatest Hits
that runs 3:47. Is that the 45 version?
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Turns out the 45 fades earlier than the LP. Never mind.
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 29 July 2020 at 9:36pm | IP Logged
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eriejwg wrote:
I have a copy from The Cover Girls Greatest Hits
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To my knowledge, the actual 45 version has not been on CD. My question was whether the LP version can be used to fade early and recreate the 45? Or is the 45 a different mix?
It sounds like its possible. Jeff sent me a nice Canadian promo which sounds unique but isnt the 45. Outside the LP version and that, I have never seen the 45 released here in the US.
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I don't think any of the Cover Girls' hit songs have been digitally released in 45
form.
Other than "Show Me", any hit song on CD I've located - or track on iTunes -
has been painfully long.
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thecdguy MusicFan
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jebsib wrote:
I don't think any of the Cover Girls' hit songs have been digitally released in 45
form.
Other than "Show Me", any hit song on CD I've located - or track on iTunes -
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Maybe not commercially released, but there are at least a few promo CD Singles that have 45 versions. I've been looking for the "Promise Me" promo for years because it not only has the 45 Version, but also the "Extended Vocal" version that was released on the Commercial Cassette Single. There is also a promo of "We Can't Go Wrong" which has the Edit Version that was used on the commercial single. (You're more likely to find that one than the one for "Promise Me"). The promo for their minor hit, "All That Glitters Isn't Gold", contains the Pop Radio Mix from the commercial single. The correct single version of "My Heart Skips A Beat" is not on the promo despite there being a version on it labelled "7 Inch Radio Edit".
Those are ones I know of offhand, but there may be others.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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So are the 3:47 copies of "Show Me" or slightly longer the
45 versions/mixes?
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According to Discogs, there was a 7" vinyl single and a
promo vinyl single for Show Me but no CD single or Promo
CD single.
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eriejwg wrote:
According to Discogs, there was a 7" vinyl single and a
promo vinyl single for Show Me but no CD single or Promo
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Yeah, it looks like their first three chart singles didn't have promo CD Singles issued for them. "Promise Me" was apparently the first.
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KTEL released a compilation in 1989 called “Dance Club Beat” and it
has the single version on it. It was released on both vinyl and CD, and
sounds quite good since they didn’t pack 15 songs like on past
compilations.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Dance-Club-Beat/release/4635 316
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That K-Tel compilation seems to have the same listed
running time for the song as the one on "Greatest Hits".
Has anyone determined if the 45 is just an early fade of
the 3:47 version, or if it's a different mix?
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I did an A/B comparison of the LP version from the Greatest
Hits cd and a 45 dub I received a while back. Assuming the
45 was recorded at the correct pitch, it appears you need
to speed up the LP version by approx 0.75% and the fade
starts about 7 seconds earlier on the 45 vs LP (fade starts
about 3:27.5 on 45 and approx 3:34 on the LP) These timings
are not precise but a close approximation.
Edited by promojunkie on 08 September 2022 at 6:45am
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The 3:47 album version on the Show Me and Greatest Hits CDs run exactly the same speed; the latter is just mastered louder (slightly brickwalled, DR 8 instead of 11).
YouTuber HitsTownUSA plays the 45 on a 1200 which I would assume has the pitch slider at the zero mark. In another one of his videos you can see the green LED for 0% pitch is lit up.
His dub runs 0.67% faster than the CDs. After trimming intro silence, the fade begins right after "actions speak louder than words" at 3:28, ending halfway through the last me "me" in "show me, show me" at 3:39.8; you can hear the snare+clap at that moment, but nothing after.
Edited by mjb50 on 06 September 2022 at 1:32pm
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