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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 6:07pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

So a particular disc I want is an SACD (The Police The Classics) which has De Do Do Do De Da Da Da 86, the only place it is at. I don't know much about SACD but can it play on a regular Blu-Ray, DVD player. If not, can only Hybrid's play it?

I know SACD died many years ago (and players are not for sale) so any advice on how to utilize this disc and rip it so I can add it to my collection. Much thanks!

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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote AdvprosD

I only remember a little bit about SACD, but what I recall was they were formulated with multiple layers so that a regular CD player could play it. The other layers had the extra data.

So, as far as I know they will play on a standard player, yet may not ripp the same way an ordinary CD will in a PC. Perhaps they will ripp?

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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote AutumnAarilyn

SACD is still alive and well in certain markets.
Acoustic sounds still sells a lot of these.
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Posted: 20 October 2020 at 12:03am | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

Certain SACD titles are labeled as "Hybrid" discs and
can be played on both regular CD players (including DVD
players, etc.) in addition to SACD decks. They contain
two layers; one redbook CD layer and one Super Audio
Compact Disc layer. However, the SACD layer can only be
accessed by an SACD player.
If an SACD title isn't labeled as a "Hybrid" disc or if
it is labeled as "Surround Sound" only, you will not be
able to play it on a normal CD player.

Unless I am mistaken, in your case, I believe the track
you are after is only accessible on the SACD layer of
that disc.

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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 1:32pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

SACDs were introduced by Sony at the end of the 90s I recall. I really wanted to adopt the format. The digital format is high resolution DSD, so it's a tad different from PCM that CDs use. 1 bit DSD would probably be close to 48 Khz 24 bit PCM if I were to make a comparison. A competitor to the format was DVD-Audio, which I think was Toshiba, but I'm just pissing in the wind guessing.

Now the showcase for SACD was multichannel audio of albums, but a two-channel stereo version of the content was included in DSD/SACD format. Then LunarLaugh mention the hybrid CD/SACDs that had a CD-like layer to that was encoded at the regular 44.1/16-bit PCM method for use in a CD player.



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Posted: 24 October 2020 at 12:15am | IP Logged Quote lbangs

Yes, as I mentioned on the other thread, this song is not only solely
accessible on the SACD level, I believe it is only on the 5.1 level.

You need an SACD player set to the multichannel layer, not the SACD
stereo layer, if I recall correctly...

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Posted: 24 October 2020 at 4:23am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

lbangs wrote:
Yes, as I mentioned on the other
thread,
this song is not only solely accessible on the SACD
level, I believe it is only on the 5.1 level.

You need an SACD player set to the multichannel layer,
not the SACD stereo layer, if I recall correctly...

L. Bangs


Which, if I'm not mistaken, means it isn't going to be
the original mix anyway, but rather a 5.1 surround
sound remix.

Edited by Brian W. on 24 October 2020 at 4:23am
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Posted: 25 October 2020 at 6:40am | IP Logged Quote KentT

You have to have a SACD Player to play SACD discs unless
hybrid discs, which have a CD layer. The Police SACD is
not hybrid.

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Posted: 27 October 2020 at 6:01pm | IP Logged Quote lbangs

The individual Police studio album SACDs are not hybrids, but
I’m pretty sure the Every Breath You Take compilation is.

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Posted: 27 October 2020 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

The SACD is a hybrid, but the Redbook CD layer does not
contain the '86 remix of "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" but
rather the original version. The '86 remix of that song
is only on the SACD layer.
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