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For anyone who did not know, the song has a US radio edit of 3:10. I recently was able to obtain the digital copy via purchase. Another one I never knew existed until now. The LP version if I recall is the 45.
https://www.discogs.com/Laura-Branigan-The-Lucky-One/release /538811
Edited by PopArchivist on 22 November 2020 at 10:09pm
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Curiously, what was edited out to create the 3:10
version?
My promo (Atlantic PR 632) shows one side as the LP
version, the other as "new mix", both with a listed
time of 4:10.
Deadwax info on the "LP version" ST-PR 46224-2 (the P
could also be an A, but I figure it's a P since that's
what's printed on the label)
"New Mix" deadwax; STPR-46727-2
Both have a little squiggle that kind of looks like a
flower after the ID#.
Don't have a commercial copy to compare.
Since this is not a standard Atlantic catalog #, I'm
guessing this was an advance release.
Edited by Hykker on 23 November 2020 at 7:18am
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Is the edit recreatable?
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I think this is the edit in question:
https://youtu.be/OJc5wcKYXik
It seems like one edit around the 2:35 mark. Also i’m not sure if it’s the
album mix or the jack white remix...there is echo on her vocals in the
intro.
I’d like to know if anyone remembers hearing this edit on the radio? I do
in fact remember an echo on the intro when i heard the song on radio
stations in NY in the 80s but i could also be crazy......
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Michaeldila wrote:
I think this is the edit in
question:
https://youtu.be/OJc5wcKYXik
It seems like one edit around the 2:35 mark. Also i’m not
sure if it’s the
album mix or the jack white remix...there is echo on her
vocals in the
intro.
I’d like to know if anyone remembers hearing this edit on
the radio? I do
in fact remember an echo on the intro when i heard the
song on radio
stations in NY in the 80s but i could also be crazy......
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The video on YouTube says the expanded edition of Self
Control is the source, yet there is no short edit on
the expanded track list. This must be something custom.
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Richie has proved me wrong lol. Looks like the edit was
included in the expanded edition. Perhaps, this release
should be added to the DB.
I remember playing the song on the radio in 1984 but have
absolutely no recollection whether it was the 4:08 version
or 3:10.
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eriejwg wrote:
Richie has proved me wrong lol. Looks like the edit was
included in the expanded edition. Perhaps, this release
should be added to the DB.
I remember playing the song on the radio in 1984 but have
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Yes, it was included in the Expanded Edition. That's why I was in shock when I saw a 3:10 version available. I was already looking for the Jack White mix for the last few years (always a big Laura Branigan fan).
The 3:10 is missing the instrumental that starts at about 1:55 and goes through 2:11 on the 45 version. The song picks up at "life is a dream the lucky one" with the electronic voice at 3:09 with the lyrics on the 45 version. So if you want to recreate that is what I hear is missing. No I never heard this edit either, but its clear it exists. I thought oh this is probably a UK edit and was shocked when discogs actually has a 45 in the US that has this edit.
The database should be updated to reflect this.
Edited by PopArchivist on 23 November 2020 at 10:43am
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The Discogs listing is probably a typo. The images show a printed time
of 4:10, not 3:10. There is also not a note documenting any run time
discrepancies.
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Also, it looks like that run time of 3:10 has been listed on Discogs since
the release was first submitted 15 years ago.
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aaronk wrote:
The Discogs listing is probably a typo. The images show a printed time
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It's not a typo. The 3:10 is included on Laura Branigan's Expanded Edition. It also has a discogs listing.
I was able to get it digitally, but for anyone who wants it, you can order the disc
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/laura-branigan-self-cont rol-2cd-expanded-edition/
Edited by PopArchivist on 23 November 2020 at 10:49am
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Yes, was just going to say this is a Cherry Red release.
Nice find, gentlemen!
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Perhaps the 3:10 edit is the UK 45 version?
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aaronk wrote:
Also, it looks like that run time of 3:10 has been listed on Discogs since
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I have no reason to believe the 3:10 release time is not legit. Up until this 2 CD special edition we just didn't notice it. NO, I never heard this 3:10 before but Aaron do you have this 45 references on discogs? You can always pull it and match it to the 3:12 file I sent you for reference.
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It's quite an interesting edit though. Count me in as used to the LP version and prefer that! I sort of got attached to all that nice instrumental and lyrics....
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Hykker wrote:
Curiously, what was edited out to create the 3:10
version?
My promo (Atlantic PR 632) shows one side as the LP
version, the other as "new mix", both with a listed
time of 4:10.
Deadwax info on the "LP version" ST-PR 46224-2 (the P
could also be an A, but I figure it's a P since that's
what's printed on the label)
"New Mix" deadwax; STPR-46727-2
Both have a little squiggle that kind of looks like a
flower after the ID#.
Don't have a commercial copy to compare.
Since this is not a standard Atlantic catalog #, I'm
guessing this was an advance release.
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I'm guessing like everyone else that the 3:10 is the UK edit. Maybe discogs is wrong....
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The 3:10 "Single Version" that is featured on the 2020
Cherry Red 2-CD Expanded Edition of "Self Control" is
an edit of the full length Jack White Mix (5:06).
45cat lists a 3:12 timing for the Germany 45 single of
"The Lucky One".
Also, as already noted, there is a U.S. promo 45 with
a "New Mix" by Jack White, stating a running time of
4:10. However, comments at discogs and 45cat state
that this is actually just the original album version.
I went ahead and made a 4:10 edit anyway, using the
"Jack White Mix" and the album version as a guide.
Assuming none of these promo 45s feature this "New
Mix" (and only the album version), I'm curious if the
intention was to include the aforementioned 3:10 Jack
White "Single Version" (with a misprinted time of
4:10) or an actual 4:10 Jack White mix.
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