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MMathews
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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 5:53pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

I couldn't find a thread on this song....

I see in the database all CDs are listed as "LP Version".

But I compared it to a 45 dub, which is mono, but I don't
hear any significant difference between the two other than
mono/stereo. A fold-down sounds the same to me.

Can anyone shed some light on what the difference is?

MM
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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 7:58pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

I had to reference an LP vs. 45
designation thread from 2005. Here's
what Pat said about Operator-

"Listen to the guitar between 1:33 and
1:35 - it is different from the 45 to
the LP."

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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

There is a lone CD in the database
that has the 45 version.

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Posted: 06 January 2021 at 4:01am | IP Logged Quote Bill Cahill

For the mono 45, they either spliced in some better guitar licks at that point, possibly from a different point in the song, or used another guitar track. There were
two different guitar tracks recorded, as the quad version reveals. Which I believe was a mixing mistake for the quad version. For the DJ 45, the mono side features the
same mix as the commercial 45, and the stereo side is the typical album mix.
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Posted: 11 January 2021 at 11:40pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Well,
With John G's assistance I was now able to hear the
differences between the stereo and mono 45 mixes.

As noted above, the mono mix has a different "improved"
guitar overdub at 1:33 - 1:35. I also noted the piano
is louder at about 2:53 in the mono and it's also louder
near the end at about 3:31. The piano track is nearly
mixed out of the stereo at those places.

I could not hear these things by A-B-ing them, I had to
sync them together. And overall, the 2 guitars are mixed
at different levels throughout.

As I recall, I had to do the same thing to identify the
differences in the mono and stereo "Bad Bad Leroy Brown"
... once I sync'd them together the differences popped
out.

Thanks for the help!

MM

Edited by MMathews on 11 January 2021 at 11:41pm
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