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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 12 July 2022 at 5:14am | IP Logged
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metallica just had their 8th top forty song hit the hot 100
this week. 'master of puppets' entered at number 40. is
there a shorter version than the 8:35 album version?
Edited by edtop40 on 12 July 2022 at 6:06am
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hi, Ed, how are you? I have some rare bootlegs, where a
promo edit version is included, with a running time of
3:38.
If you need a copy to check, just let me know.
cheers
Edited by kaqueno on 12 July 2022 at 5:23am
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Marcelo, I'd love a copy, thanks!
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Ok Ed, I sent you a copy to your personal email, for your
checkup, cheers.
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Is the bootleg version something fan-made, or is it recorded from the promo 12"?
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edtop40 MusicFan
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the file runs 3:35 and ends with a slight fade...
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aaronk wrote:
Is the bootleg version something fan-made,
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My copy is not a fan made version, and it runs at 3:33,
with a total time of 3:38 and, as ed says, it closes with a
slight fade.
You can listen to this version on youtube, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DHmTY5sMss
Edited by kaqueno on 12 July 2022 at 6:35am
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There is a promo 12" on Discogs labeled as Part 1. Luckily,
thanks to the video, part 1 can be recreated and we can
save a few hundred bucks.
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kaqueno MusicFan
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I have no problem sending a copy to anyone who requests it,
if necessary.
cheers
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Ed, can you send me the file to make sure I faded in the
correct spot?
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edtop40 MusicFan
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john,
i just sent it..lmk your thoughts..
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eriejwg MusicFan
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So, the true promo edit fade can't be recreated from the LP
version but you can get close, fading completely at 3:32-
3:33 whereas the true promo edit fades at 3:35.
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I heard your re-created version, John. It sounds like the ending was digitally created, so I wonder if it truly matches the vinyl or not.
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The YouTube link ends earlier than the 3:35 version. It's
easy to replicate the video version.
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I just discovered another video on YouTube labeled as
"short version" that runs 3:58. The poster mentioned that
it's a custom edit they created.
Edited by eriejwg on 12 July 2022 at 9:26am
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kaqueno wrote:
My copy is not a fan made version, and it runs at 3:33, with a total time of 3:38 and, as ed says, it closes with a slight fade. |
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Bootlegs are generally always fan-made. If the version on it was not taken from vinyl, then it's likely digitally created. (Bootleggers don't have access to master tapes.) If digitally created, the question is if the person who did it replicated it to match the vinyl or not.
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It should be noted that the song is re-charting due to exposure in the TV series Stranger Things and that
it's the full album version that is being streamed and downloaded (which accounts for nearly all the song's
current chart points).
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I wonder if they will release the original promo edit from
1986. Probably not.
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kaqueno MusicFan
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The striking thing is that in 2017 they released a giant
box of "Master Of Puppets", but without the promotional
versions, as if they did it with "the black album", a real
shame, it was a great opportunity.
https://www.discogs.com/release/11130868-Metallica-Master-
Of-Puppets
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