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sriv94
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Posted: 25 May 2006 at 2:54pm \| IP Logged

OK, here's one. Dylan's on my mind since his birthday was yesterday (same as my mother's).

Is the 45 just a straight fade of the full-length version, or is it an edit as well as being faded early?

Also, is the 45 uncensored like the LP (I'm assuming, which is dangerous, that a censored radio version was put out)?

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Posted: 25 May 2006 at 3:12pm \| IP Logged

If I recall correctly, the commercial 45 broke the song up into parts 1 and 2. Whitburn lists Part 2 as the single. I seem to remember that side fading in on one of the instrumental interludes between verses.

Edited by eric_a on 25 May 2006 at 3:13pm

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Posted: 25 May 2006 at 3:50pm \| IP Logged

While I don't have the stock 45, I do have two different double-sided, 7" promo singles. One, a 45, has the 3:45 stereo and mono edited mixes. The other, a 33 1/3 without the large spindle hole, is a 8:34 stereo/mono full length version. I don't remember which one was played, for neither my station nor most others aired it.

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Posted: 25 May 2006 at 8:12pm \| IP Logged

doug.........do you need a copy of the commercial 45 for your review???

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 5:46am \| IP Logged

eric_a wrote:

Whitburn lists Part 2 as the single.

Actually, Whitburn lists Part 1 as the single.

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 7:08am \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

doug.........do you need a copy of the commercial 45 for your review???

Not necessarily, Ed, if you can tell me if I simulated the 45 properly. I made the point of stoppage the (3:44) mark, I started the fade at about (3:37), and left the S-word in.

If I'm close, then I don't need the 45. If I'm way off, then it wouldn't hurt to have it (unless it would just be easier to tell me where I went astray).

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:46pm \| IP Logged

Paul Haney wrote:

eric_a wrote:

Whitburn lists Part 2 as the single.

Actually, Whitburn lists Part 1 as the single.

Wow, I stand corrected.

I think I was confusing that with Chicago's "Dialogue". Are there many other 2-part hits, where Part II was the hit? I can think of Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll" and Cozy Cole - Topsy. Were there many others?

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:53pm \| IP Logged

eric_a wrote:

I think I was confusing that with Chicago's "Dialogue".

Probably wasn't "Dialogue." The 45 version is an edit of the LP version (not merely a fade). The version on Chicago's Greatest Hits, Volume 2 CD wasn't the 45 (the 45 is gettable on a couple of the Rhino releases).

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:55pm \| IP Logged

Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)" comes to mind. Overall, it doesn't appear there are very many "part 2" Top 40 hits.

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sriv94 wrote:

eric_a wrote:

I think I was confusing that with Chicago's "Dialogue".

I could've sworn that Whitburn called that Part II, but I see that's wrong too...he calls it Parts I & II.

Wow - I am batting poorly today. :)

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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 1:56pm \| IP Logged

Some other "Part 2" only Top 40 hits:

"Fingertips" - Stevie Wonder
"Uh! Oh!" - Nutty Squirrels
"Smokie" - Bill Black's Combo
"Ooh Poo Pah Doo" - Jessie Hill
"You Can't Sit Down" - Philip Upchurch Combo
"I Am Somebody" - Johnnie Taylor
"Hip City" - Junior Walker & The All-Stars
"No, No, No" - Destiny's Child

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Posted: 04 December 2007 at 12:49am \| IP Logged

While it's not noted in the database, the promo 45 of "Hurricane (Part 1)" contains a bleep over the "s" word. The stock 45 version leaves the word uncensored. Perhaps Pat can add this info to the already well detailed song notes.

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Actual run times for both the stock & promo versions (Part 1) are just a fraction of a second under (3:42). There are no edits on Part 1; it just starts fading at the (3:35) mark.

Edited by aaronk on 04 December 2007 at 1:07am

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Posted: 30 July 2008 at 3:30pm \| IP Logged

I recreated the censored promo 45 today, even borrowing the 'beep' from the promo 45! :)

The beep is placed over the 's' word, if you wish to censor it, with the fade beginning after the cymbal crash at 3:36, fading quickly from 3:37-3:42, as Aaron mentioned above.

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Posted: 30 July 2008 at 6:15pm \| IP Logged

sriv94 wrote:

eric_a wrote:

I think I was confusing that with Chicago's "Dialogue".

Not to hijack this thread, but what's the story on the extremely cold ending on this? The song ends in mid-word ("we can make it hap").

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Posted: 31 July 2008 at 8:34am \| IP Logged

Possibly continuing the first hijack of this thread...

Would Usher's "Confessions, part two" count?

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Posted: 03 August 2008 at 5:43am \| IP Logged

my friend John Gallagher was kind enough to forward me his custom edit of part 1 of "hurricane" and it matches my commercial 45 perfectly......it DOES contain the word "shit" at the 1:53 mark of the song...... my commercial 45 issued as columbia 10245 states a run time on the A-side label as 3:45 but actually runs 3:44.......in addition the matrix number of the A-side is zss-160791-2 while the B-side states "hurricane (part II)" with a run time of 4:57 and a matrix number of zss-160782-2....so using the standard matrix rule the A-side would be part 1.....

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Posted: 03 August 2008 at 12:09pm \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

....so using the standard matrix rule the A-side would be part 1.....

And using the standard promo 45 rule, the A-side would also be... the same! :) Here are the promo scans Gary Mack mentioned earlier in the thread:

The two stereo/mono promo 45 "Part 1" sides below are from two pressings from Columbia's Terre Haute plant, the left copy styrene, and the right, vinyl, which CTH had just begun to utilize for some promo singles (although the quality was definitely not up to the Santa Maria plant standards. I often had to de-horn CTH vinyl 45s by manually playing them backwards to clear out the grooves.)

The small-hole 33 1/3, 7-inch stereo/mono full version reservice, utilizing the same catalog number (a vinyl Terre Haute pressing, fortunately; styrene 33 1/3 7-inchers typically developed cue-burn on their first playing.) The mono side matrix number is ZLP 160777-2.

This 7-inch configuration presented a problem for stations whose turntables had a built-in 45 adapter, as the small hole prevented the record from fitting into the bowl of the turntable, leaving it high and dry and tough to play without first putting another large-hole 45 or an LP underneath it.

Edited by Yah Shure on 20 November 2008 at 8:04pm

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Posted: 13 June 2020 at 10:31am \| IP Logged

The 2020 Japanese Singles Collection recently released on CD includes the commercial 45 of "Hurricane (Part 1)" with no beep included plus the quick fade.

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Posted: 05 January 2023 at 8:29pm \| IP Logged

Just heard the full length version on WMMR, I tuned in in progress so I don't
know if the S word was censored, but the N word was. I guess this was an in
house edit. They used to play it uncensored.

It's the 47th anniversary of "Desire" which is why it was played.

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