https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 17:35:04 +0000 Mon, 02 Jun 2025 19:00:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=10250 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66877&title=morgan-wallen#66877 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 7:00pm

edtop40 wrote: While ALL the thoughts are well taken and understood, what should also be noted, bizarrely (and may be NOT so oddly) is that the hot 100 is having chart-breaking stints for songs staying in the top 10 and top 40......in last week's Billboard top 40 there are songs in the top 40 for 51, 53, 57, 60, 70 AND 75 weeks!!!.....and also weeks in the top ten of 33, 39, 56 & 62 weeks.....how is it a song is THAT popular for a freaking year when the attention span of listeners/people today is so short..........I guess the transient nature of things popping in and out quickly leave the really popular songs via radio to stay much longer than otherwise would have occurred....something to think about....

To Ed's point, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus spent about 60 weeks at #1 (!) on the AC chart. How can a song possibly be so popular that it's the most played song in that genre for over a year. Not a top 100, top 40, or top 10, but #1.

But such is the nature of charts these days.]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 19:00:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66877&title=morgan-wallen#66877 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66875&title=morgan-wallen#66875 Author: The_Bops
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 5:32pm

Streaming certainly is the biggest component of the Hot 100 (and the Genre component charts). Sales are next to dead and Radio is down. Even without major album bombs like Morgan Wallen, half of the time songs that make the top 3 on Country radio don't hit the top 10 on the Hot Country Songs chart because they don't stream well enough. Certainly can't compare eras from decades ago to today.

EdisonLite wrote: Interestingly, as for his #1 song on the Hot 100, "What I Want", I took a look to see how well it was doing on the Radio Songs Top 50 chart, and it's not on there. I wonder if it will become a radio hit (or at least make the Radio Songs chart). My guess is it will since it's the #1 song in the country (and on the Hot 100.)

"What I Want" is being promoted to Pop radio so it should be on the Radio chart soon. I believe it even debuted on Country Radio at #55 last week due to curiosity spins.]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 17:32:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66875&title=morgan-wallen#66875 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66873&title=morgan-wallen#66873 Author: edtop40
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 4:47pm

While ALL the thoughts are well taken and understood, what should also be noted, bizarrely (and may be NOT so oddly) is that the hot 100 is having chart-breaking stints for songs staying in the top 10 and top 40......in last week's Billboard top 40 there are songs in the top 40 for 51, 53, 57, 60, 70
AND 75 weeks!!!.....and also weeks in the top ten of 33, 39, 56 & 62 weeks.....how is it a song is THAT popular for a freaking year when the attention span of listeners/people today is so short..........I guess the transient nature of things popping in and out quickly leave the really popular songs via radio to stay much longer than otherwise would have occurred....something to think about....

Edited by edtop40 - 02 June 2025 at 5:13pm]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 16:47:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66873&title=morgan-wallen#66873 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66872&title=morgan-wallen#66872 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 4:28pm

Imagine if "Kung Fu Fighting" came out this year... the other songs from KUNG FU FIGHTING AND OTHER GREAT LOVE SONGS would be a shoo-in for the top 40. ]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 16:28:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66872&title=morgan-wallen#66872 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66871&title=morgan-wallen#66871 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 3:50pm

Yes, I remember that. And the Beatles, too, IIRC. To me, it's kind of insane to think the cast of Glee was more successful than Elvis (in terms of Hot 100 hits).]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 15:50:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66871&title=morgan-wallen#66871 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66870&title=morgan-wallen#66870 Author: JMD1961
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 3:47pm

jebsib wrote: Of course, this issue dates back way before streaming. I knew we were 'in for it' back in 2006 when suddenly the Hot 100 had like 7 "High School Musical" tracks... unheard of at the time, but definitely a harbinger of what was to come.

The point it hit me was when all the major news outlets started pointing out that the cast of "Glee" had more Hot 100 hits than Elvis.   ]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 15:47:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66870&title=morgan-wallen#66870 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66867&title=morgan-wallen#66867 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 1:52pm

As someone who works in the music industry, I can tell you that most industry professionals I speak to say the Hot 100 is a useless chart for them.

As far as I know, none of the national top 40 radio countdowns have used the Billboard hot 100 for many years. There probably are radio regulations that prevent one artist having 20-30+ songs played in a 4-hour period.

Looking at this "album bomb" phenomenon in a reverse situation (and I never really have before), if somehow streaming existed back in the '70s & 80s, for any artist who had a really large fanbase (one example: Barry Manilow), most of his fans would have streamed all his album tracks on the week of release. But let's say, "You Could Show Me", "Starting Again" and "Bobbie Lee (What's the Difference, I Gotta Live") all made the top 10. How many people (other than true Manilow fans) would even know these top 10 hits? But in my hypothetical example, these would go down in the history books as top 10 hits. Frankly, I'm glad we can look back at the top 10 hits of the '70s and '80s as the hits they were, rather than album-bombs filling much of the top 10 with "hits" that no one other than fans of the group/artist of the week would remember.

No disrespect to Barry Manilow or his fans (which includes me). Just giving one example, but I could have said John Denver, the Carpenters, Air Supply, or many heavy metal bands for that matter :)

Edited by EdisonLite - 02 June 2025 at 1:55pm]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:52:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66867&title=morgan-wallen#66867 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66866&title=morgan-wallen#66866 Author: jebsib
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 11:36am

torcan - nothing you said is inaccurate!

And it's not just seasoned chart watchers, but young people as well that aren't happy with a #8 song that is gone after 1 chart week. Nowadays chart fans care increasingly about longevity (weeks on chart) just as much as peak position. In fact, Billboard lists their Artist Chart History in descending order based on the weeks a song has charted, creating some odd visuals when a #14 song is listed atop a #2 hit, going strictly by weeks.

Of course, this issue dates back way before streaming. I knew we were 'in for it' back in 2006 when suddenly the Hot 100 had like 7 "High School Musical" tracks... unheard of at the time, but definitely a harbinger of what was to come.
]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 11:36:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66866&title=morgan-wallen#66866 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66865&title=morgan-wallen#66865 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 9:51am

I scan the charts from Mediabase at All Access to update my current music folders. The Morgan Wallen track, What I Want, is currently #20 on the Top 40 chart on Mediabase.]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 09:51:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66865&title=morgan-wallen#66865 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66863&title=morgan-wallen#66863 Author: torcan
Subject: 10250
Posted: 02 June 2025 at 7:51am

I agree that the Album Bombs are accurate, but they way it's reflected on the charts is so messed up.

When most people think of the Hot 100 they think of hit songs. Until 12/5/1998, you had to have a commercial single to be able to chart. After that date, you could chart on airplay alone (because a lot of hits weren't released commercially), but it was still mostly radio hits that people knew and liked.

I know I've said this before but when they allowed streaming stats onto the chart, they should have limited it to the songs being promoted to radio as singles - that way we'd still get a pretty accurate reflection of what's actually popular.

In the old days, if a song peaked at No. 8 (for example), you'd remember it as a well-known top 10 hit. These days, it a song peaks at No. 8 in an album-bomb week and is off the chart two weeks later, you're looking at a top 10 song that you have no recollection of and was never even played on the radio. In looking at Whitburn's most recent Pop Singles book, a lot of today's artists charted song list go on forever - yet, I hardly know any of them.

Oh well...it's too late to undo 20-plus years of history but it really makes today's charts hard to decipher because it's no longer just "hit songs".]]> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 07:51:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10250&PID=66863&title=morgan-wallen#66863