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Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : my 45 states the run time on the...

Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:13:38 +0000

Author: edtop40
Subject: 729
Posted: 01 April 2012 at 4:13am

my 45 states the run time on the label as 5:34 but only
runs 5:21 and is identical to the version from the below
cd.....

(S) (5:20) &nb sp; Arista 18963 Eric Carmen -- The Definitive
Collection (45 version)

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Both single & album mixes have...

Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:39:45 +0000

Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 729
Posted: 27 December 2007 at 8:39pm

Both single & album mixes have the piano solo quite quietly mixed; I believe the single mix piano sounds a tad louder, but probably that's due to the overall more midrangey sound of the single mix.

Andy

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Andrew C writes: <For "EdisonLite":...

Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:41:42 +0000

Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 729
Posted: 27 December 2007 at 1:41am

Andrew C writes:

When the piano solo fades (prior to the big drums crash that comes back in), does it get quieter on one version while staying somewhat louder on the other version? (I thought I recall a difference being that one faded closer to "zero" than the other did.)

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Eriejwg, you and your wallet are...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:52:57 +0000

Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 12:52pm

Eriejwg, you and your wallet are most welcome!

Andy, you're spot-on regarding foggy memories. I dug out all of my Raspberries 45s a month ago when they came up for discussion during the 2007 IT thread on xmfan.com's decades discussion. In scanning all of the labels for a future post, I realized that I hadn't played the short "Overnight Sensation" 45 in many years, and that's what sparked the replication effort.

And just has you had thought, I went in with the assumption that there was just an early fade. It was the differences in the drumming that made the edit apparent. Most casual listeners would never have noticed the difference between the actual DJ 45 edit and a simple early fade.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that your local station did their own early fade. If they wore out their initial promo 45, all they would have had left were either the long promo side or reserviced stock copies. The single preceded the release of the Starting Over album.

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Thanks "Yah Shure" Memories...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:13:05 +0000

Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 12:13pm

Thanks "Yah Shure"

Memories are a foggy thing...

Maybe the radio station that played it in my area simply faded the long version out before the solo piano part & wasn't the TRUE promo edit...

Andy

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : To Andy and Yah Sure...many thanks!...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:20:43 +0000

Author: eriejwg
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 11:20am

To Andy and Yah Sure...many thanks! And, my wallet thanks you too!

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Andy, there's an edit involved...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:14:35 +0000

Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 11:14am

Andy, there's an edit involved along with the early fade. With my DJ 45 serving as the template, here's how I replicated the short version:

Using the 45 mix from the Capitol Collectors Series CD, the edit point comes at the 3:17 mark, just before the word "hit" of the first complete "want a hit record, yeah" line after the drums come in.

The segment between 3:17 and just before the word "hit" at the 4:22 mark is simply edited out.

After making the edit, fade beginning at 3:35. The last full word heard before the end of the fade is "record" at the 3:46 mark.

Edited by Yah Shure

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : For "eriejwg": Going...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:24:53 +0000

Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 8:24am

For "eriejwg":

Going by memory only, the 3:46 promo is just an early fade of the 5:24.

For "EdisonLite": Don't forget that the album version is a slightly different mix than the single (single mix is narrower stereo and a little more midrangey and a little less dynamic than the album version).

Andy

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : Revisiting an old topic if you...

Wed, 26 Dec 2007 01:11:54 +0000

Author: eriejwg
Subject: 729
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 1:11am

Revisiting an old topic if you don't mind...

A seller has a 5:24/3:46 promo for sale. Before I'd sink $15.60 into this (yes, expensive), does anyone know how to edit the 45 version down to 3:46?

Raspberries "Overnight Sensation" : I can now answer my own question...

Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:25:14 +0000

Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 729
Posted: 21 June 2006 at 4:25pm

I can now answer my own question in case anyone is wondering this.

Both versions are identical up until the 5:24 point where the song fades out to zero. After that, on the album version, you hear about 10 seconds of "Go All the Way" at an extremely low volume.

Pat, you might want to mention this detail in the database (if it's not already indicated.) I bought the "Greatest" CD just to get this longer version, thinking it was a different mix or an edit or a longer fade, only to find out I already had the full-length song in tact but not the "Go All the Way" coda (which I didn't need.)

IMO, these two versions could also be differentiated by labeling one "album length" and one "single length" -- since you can fade the album really really quickly at 5:24 and get the single.

Edited by EdisonLite