KENNY G - Songbird
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Topic: KENNY G - Songbird
Posted By: abagon
Subject: KENNY G - Songbird
Date Posted: 19 May 2008 at 7:39am
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KENNY G -"Songbird"
I have two kinds of the "Songbird" commercial 45 (ARISTA AS1-9588). (1)/The actual running time 3:36 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SAS-SP2 (2)/The actual running time 5:00 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SA-PW1 Please look at the following scan images. (1)3:36 
(2)5:00 
First time I purchased (1). However it was very noisy record with scratches. And I imported again reluctantly from the other online store. Fortunately, I got (2). "Turn the potential disaster to my advantage" |
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Posted By: MCT1
Date Posted: 19 May 2008 at 10:11am
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FWIW, from the typeface differences, it looks like these may have come from different pressing plants. In a previous discussion about Aretha Franklin's "Freeway of Love", it was suggested that 45s with labels that look like #1 may have been pressed by RCA, those with #2 by Specialty (which by this time was owned by Warner Music, but still also did pressing work for outside clients). #1 strikes me as more "typical Arista typeface" from this era, while #2 certainly resembles the typeface used by Specialty for other labels they pressed for.
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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 12:17am
| MCT1: Thank you. Your information is beneficial for me very much. |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 25 May 2009 at 2:07pm
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This seems to be another case of multiple pressings of this 45: I've seen on e-bay that there's also a pressing that carries a 4:51 timing, on Arista 9588, and there's also a 5:00 timing on Arista 9516.
I have a promo that has a 5:00 timing, but I can't play it because it's off-center. I also have a commercial copy of the one pictured above that carries a 3:29 timing. Don't know if there ever was a promo that listed either 3:29 or 4:51. FWIW, the Canadian 45 of this title carried the full 5:00. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:24pm
| Does anyone know what the (3:59) version is on the "Greatest Hits" CD? I presume it's a "neither" or "faded early," but the database doesn't have a note next to it. "Ultimate" runs (3:54), which also doesn't have a note next to it. |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 11:40am
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Aaron, The short 45 is an early fade of the Greatest Hits CD. Unfortunately, my GH CD is German pressing. But it runs (3:59). Also, I think that the short 45 is an edit of the full length version.
--abagon |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 12:58pm
| Thanks to abagon, I was able to hear the actual short vinyl 45 version. He is absolutely correct that "Greatest Hits" is the "45 version but :23 longer." This should probably be noted in the database. |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 28 April 2011 at 5:32pm
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just wanted to push up this thread as I am working on Kenny G and the above has not yet been updated in the DB.
-Jeff |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 29 April 2011 at 8:33am
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Although the info was already updated. The long 45 is the same as the LP. The short 45 is the edited version of the LP or the long 45. I think that the "short 45 length but :22 longer" comment for Greatest Hits CD is not appropriate.
--abagon |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 29 April 2011 at 9:25am
| Abagon you stated above that the short 45 version is just an early fade of the LP appearance so why do you feel the comment "short 45 length but :22 longer" is not appropriate? |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 29 April 2011 at 10:12am
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Kenny G's saxophone performance starts at :07 on the short 45 also on my Greatest Hits CD, meanwhile it starts at :14 on the long 45. The short 45 is not just an early fade of the LP. So I feel that short 45 version but :22 longer" comment needs.
--abagon |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 March 2026 at 10:35pm
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I discovered an album on Qobuz tonight that has the short 3:37 single version of Songbird. Not sure if it ever was released on CD or not but it's on Qobuz. Clive Davis: The Soundtrack Of Our Lives This collection also features the mono 2:42 single version of Piece Of My Heart from Big Brother & The Holding Company. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA Celebrating 29 years as a full-time wedding & special event DJ! |
Posted By: kaqueno
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 6:12am
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According to Discogs, the CD was released in Japan, Taiwan, Australia, and Europe.
https://www.discogs.com/release/11446023-Various-Clive-Davis-The-Soundtrack-Of-Our-Lives" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/release/11446023-Various-Clive-Davis-The-Soundtrack-Of-Our-Lives ------------- Marcelo - Argentina https://www.mixcloud.com/marcelo-guzman4/ - https://www.discogs.com/user/kaqueno/collection |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 2:55pm
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Thanks for checking on that Marcelo. So, the CD won't appear in the database but it gives another option for Kenny G and Big Brother. There are several other single versions on the Clive David album as well. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA Celebrating 29 years as a full-time wedding & special event DJ! |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 9:08pm
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FYI, there are two edits to form the short 45 version ("Single Version" on the promo CD single) from the LP version ("Album Version" on the promo CD single), plus an early fade. The first edit removes 8 beats from 0:04.0 to 0:11.0 of the LP version. (Edit at 0:04.0 of the 45.) The second edit removes 64 beats from 2:22.2 to 3:18.9 of the LP version. (Edit at 2:15.0 of the 45.) The 45 fade is from 3:19 to 3:38 of the 45. If the 45 weren't faded early, the version with just the two edits would run about 22 seconds longer - that's what on the Greatest Hits album. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 9:38pm
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One more detail: Discogs shows various North American 45 pressings: Arista Canada AS1-9561, matrix "AS1-9561-SA", copyright 1986, commercial release, printed 5:00 Arista US AS1-9573, matrix "AS1-9573-SA", copyright 1986, promo shown; may not be commercial release, printed 5:00 Arista US AS1-9588, matrix "AS1-9588-SA", copyright "1986, 1987", commercial release, printed 4:51 Arista US AS1-9588, matrix "AS1-9588-SAS", copyright "1986, 1987", commercial release, printed 3:29 It's clear that first pressings of the single on Arista included the LP version. It's called "Album Version" on the US promo CD single, and "Extended" on the European promo 12" single, and "Full Length Version" on the UK commercial 12" single. It's also clear that later pressings of the single on Arista included the edited version. It's called "Single Version" on the US promo CD single, and "7" Version" on the European promo 12" single. The UK, Japan, and Australia/New Zealand 45s all included the edited version. It's safe to say that the "Single Version" was the hit. I never heard the Album Version on the radio at all back in 1987. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |