https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 03:16:21 +0000 Mon, 08 Sep 2025 19:18:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=10283 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67252&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67252 Author: ptgraphics
Subject: 10283
Posted: 08 September 2025 at 7:18pm

Maybe already been mention and I missed it but the 4:19 version can be found on the UK CD single for What About Love. I have it and it sounds good.
https://www.discogs.com/release/2282374-Heart-What-About-Love]]> Mon, 08 Sep 2025 19:18:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67252&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67252 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67250&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67250 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 10283
Posted: 08 September 2025 at 11:49am

Do either of you (Paul or Steve) remember which promo of Crazy On You got the airplay since there appears to be 3 different lengths?]]> Mon, 08 Sep 2025 11:49:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67250&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67250 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67246&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67246 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 10283
Posted: 08 September 2025 at 8:12am

I also recall mixed airplay between commercial and promo versions of both "Crazy On You" and "Magic Man" in 1976.]]> Mon, 08 Sep 2025 08:12:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67246&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67246 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67236&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67236 Author: Hykker
Subject: 10283
Posted: 05 September 2025 at 7:27am

eriejwg wrote: I now recall hearing the commercial single more than one of the promo edits on the radio in 1976.

I recall it being maybe 50/50. Our station played the promo edit, as did our cross-town competition. Likewise, "Magic Man".]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2025 07:27:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67236&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67236 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67233&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67233 Author: aaronk
Subject: 10283
Posted: 04 September 2025 at 7:45pm

My promo 45s are not currently pulled and in front of me, but I have dubs on my hard drive that are labeled well enough that I can tell you what's on each:

2:58 printed - full intro; has a 7.5 second acoustic guitar intro before drums and electric guitar begin; total intro time is 20 seconds; actual run time is 3:09; the label says the intro is :13 but it is actually :20

4:10 printed (flip side of 2:58 printed promo) - edited intro; has a 12.5 second intro and starts with the drums and electric guitar (no acoustic guitar opening); actual run time 4:06

3:09 printed - exactly the same version as found on the 2:58 printed promo but the actual run time is 3:10.3 (fade out is one second longer)

4:10 printed (flip side of 3:09 printed promo) - actual run time is 4:13 and has the full intro (acoustic guitar for 7.5 seconds before drums and electric guitars; total 20 second intro); same as commercial 45

Perhaps there is a short promo with an edited intro, but if so, it's not on any of the pressings I own.]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2025 19:45:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67233&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67233 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67231&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67231 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 10283
Posted: 04 September 2025 at 12:16pm

I had one of the promo edits in my active music library and have shifted to just carrying the commercial single version running 4:13. I now recall hearing the commercial single more than one of the promo edits on the radio in 1976.]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2025 12:16:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67231&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67231 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67219&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67219 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 10283
Posted: 31 August 2025 at 4:19pm

Ugh. The endless variations are truly crazy-making.

I know we like to document everything meticulously, but I'm going to opt out of doing so for "Crazy On You".

I can summarize, though:

Starting with the LP version, mathematics tells us that there are exactly four permutations of: (1) deleting the 16-beat strummed intro vs. keeping the intro, and (2) fading early vs. keeping the full length.

We can create any of these four combinations as we see fit. I personally believe that the LP version was the hit, so I view all of these as non-hit promo versions.

Any mono mixes are likely fold-downs of the stereo mixes. (Can't confirm, though.)]]> Sun, 31 Aug 2025 16:19:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67219&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67219 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67218&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67218 Author: EternalStatic
Subject: 10283
Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:43am

(And sorry if I'm contradicting something you've already proven in some of this entry -- after reading your points and also pulling up the various Youtube videos, my eyes started to cross a bit ) ]]> Sun, 31 Aug 2025 11:43:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67218&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67218 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67217&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67217 Author: EternalStatic
Subject: 10283
Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:32am

crapfromthepast wrote: Summing up everything I know about the various versions: Beginning with the 1980 Epic release of Greatest Hits, record companies considered the full LP version to be 4:54, with the first 37 seconds being the last half of the excellent acoustic guitar track "Dreamboat Annie (Fantasy Child)". In reality, the true LP version runs about 4:17 (the tail of the fade seems to go on forever), and begins with a 16-beat acoustic strummed intro. The commercial 45 (printed 4:16) is the same as the true LP version. The database shows that the tail of the fade ends at 4:13. There's a printed 4:10 promo 45 version, which cuts out the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro and begins on the downbeat. The rest of the song is the same as the LP version. There's a printed 3:09 promo 45 version, which includes the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro, and fades early to 3:10. No edits, compared to the true LP version, just an early fade. There's a printed 2:58 promo 45 version, which also includes the 16-beat acoustic strummed intro, and fades early to 3:08. Also no edits, compared to the true LP version, just an early fade. For all practical purposes, the printed 2:58 promo 45 version is the same as the printed 3:09 promo 45 version. Discogs also shows a Canadian promo 45 with the 2:58 on both sides, but in mono on both sides. Yay, AM radio!

Loving this post, as like so many, I was never sure of the true dividing line between "Fantasy Child" and "Crazy on You". However, when I pulled up the versions I have in my library to start snipping and re-creating the various 45 versions as described here (as one does...), I went to Youtube to try to gauge the fade points. The first video I pulled up by searching "heart crazy on you promo 45" belongs to the AnotherProf account and immediately adds an outlier to the list above: a short promo version that starts on the downbeat without any of the strummed acoustic intro.

The description for the video states this was recorded from the M-7021-PC promo and has a printed intro time of ":13". This led me to go digging at Discogs and it appears that there are 4 different Mushroom promo 45s between the U.S. and Canada: certainly some of these will line up to what you reported above, Ron -- but what I noticed moreover was that the stated intro times are split between the different pressings: some state ":13" and some state ":20". I don't own any of these promo 45s but going off of what I'm seeing in your post vs. the AnotherProf video, I have a theory that perhaps the ones you reference as containing the strummed intro are the ":20" copies and ones labeled ":13" likely start on the downbeat:

Discogs Search

(1) M-7021-PC (Mono/Stereo 45 Promo U.S.) {Likely the record AnotherProf has posted above}
A: Short 2.58 (Mono) printed time with :13 intro
B: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
Likely does not contain acoustic strummed intro

(2) M-FM-7021 (Stereo Only 45 Promo U.S.) {Likely the record Ron references above}
A: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :20 intro
B: Short 3.09 (Stereo) printed time with :20 intro
Likely contains 16-beat acoustic strummed intro

(3) M-7021-FM (Stereo Only 45 Promo U.S.) {These catalog nos. are driving me nuts}
A: Short 2.58 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
B: Long 4.10 (Stereo) printed time with :13 intro
Likely does not contain acoustic strummed intro - see this Youtube video but also ignore the claim that it mirrors the commercial copy which I think we have established contains the intro

(4) M-7021-PC (Canada Mono Only Promo) [Referenced by Ron above]
Both sides 2:58 listed time with :13 printed intro.
In my elaborate but unproven theory, these may actually feature a chopped intro like the other printed :13 promos


Anyway, just wanted to give you a headache this morning! TTYL!

]]> Sun, 31 Aug 2025 11:32:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67217&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67217 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67215&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67215 Author: bjhami75
Subject: 10283
Posted: 29 August 2025 at 7:57am

Thank you Aaron and Ron! ]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2025 07:57:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10283&PID=67215&title=heart-crazy-on-you#67215