https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 00:48:45 +0000 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:20:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1043 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=22974&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#22974 Author: Steve Sharp
Subject: 1043
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 8:20pm

How can I tell if any given 45 is styrene?]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:20:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=22974&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#22974 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=22959&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#22959 Author: KentT
Subject: 1043
Posted: 17 July 2009 at 2:02pm

There's an alignment gauge which is packed with the turntable which works well. It can be had from KABUSA cheap if yours is missing. Also tonearm height can make a difference in sonics. Stylus being slightly tail down improves sonics. The microline,MicroRidge, Shibata, and StereoHedron styli make a difference. Less loss of quality on the inner grooves. ]]> Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:02:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=22959&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#22959 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7861&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7861 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1043
Posted: 10 November 2006 at 9:40pm

I just received and set up my AT-440MLa cartridge and stylus, and it sounds spectacular! I'm very grateful to Johann for suggesting it.

Now, I also dared to play a styrene 45 with it, but before doing so, I lowered the tracking weight from 1.8g to 1.4g, and I had no trouble at all. I tried about a half dozen styrene 45s, and they all played great.

Now, my other question, for anyone who owns a Technics 1200MK2 turntable, is how do you adjust the azimuth? Everything sounds great, but I'm getting about 2 to 3 dB lower volume in the left channel.]]> Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:40:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7861&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7861 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7756&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7756 Author: elcoleccionista
Subject: 1043
Posted: 31 October 2006 at 6:31am

Thanks Vanmeter, I have heard about that Shure model, audiophiles kept on and on about which one is better on the SH forum, but after all the reading, most seemed to lean towards the AT, so I went that way, plus the fact you mention that was also an issue, the fact the Shure has been discontinued.
]]> Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:31:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7756&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7756 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7755&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7755 Author: vanmeter
Subject: 1043
Posted: 31 October 2006 at 5:52am

elcoleccionista wrote: Since you mention you have two microline styli, which ones do you have, and which one does not eat your styrenes?

The only one I have had that seemed to be safe on 99% of styrene was the Shure V15-VMR. Styli for this have started disappearing over the last year, so I'm guessing it'd be a tough one to find.

The other one I have is a 440ML (not MLa).

Edited by vanmeter]]> Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:52:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7755&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7755 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7754&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7754 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1043
Posted: 30 October 2006 at 10:07pm

I just sent you a PM, Johann. I think I'm going to go for it. Thanks for the encouragement, Brian!]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:07:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7754&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7754 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7753&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7753 Author: elcoleccionista
Subject: 1043
Posted: 30 October 2006 at 9:59pm


My pleasure Aaron!

Watch out with the styrene 45's though, the guy who set it up for me and I were curious about the comments about it on the SH forum, and we had a laugh when it basically ate the beginning of the Tim Finn 7" single, it was amazing how it basically changed the color of the grooves it played, and the hiss it left on them.

But I myself would not be have been that joyful if I had played any of my Madonna US promo styrene 45's. : P

I believe I only have styrenes by her, a couple Janet Jackson and Cyndi Lauper, the rest of my mini 7" singles collection are vinyl.

I can then guarantee an absolute new listening experience since you are also coming from a spherical Ortofon Concorde. Channel separation, clearer distinction of each sound itself, overall soundstage, beats it by far my friend.

And to my ear, it makes the sound quality gap between a 12" and a 7" vinyl a lot narrower, too. The difference was much more evident with the Concorde.

As a reference, I played a Paula Abdul "Cold Hearted" promo 45, and as I know you remember it has a lot of high frequencies, especially with the word "SSSnake".

Plays it beautifully for a 45, I could not listen to it with the Ortofon, it wrecked my ears and nerves ; )

I'm keeping the Ortofon anyway, if nothing else to play the styrenes (seldom as I do), or just for how cool it looks ; )

I say, go for the AT without hesitance : )
]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:59:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7753&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7753 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7751&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7751 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 1043
Posted: 30 October 2006 at 8:58pm

Yes, by all means, Aaron, upgrade, upgrade! :D ]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:58:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7751&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7751 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7750&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7750 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1043
Posted: 30 October 2006 at 8:16pm

Johann! Thanks for the valuable info! I've been searching around for a good stylus and cartridge to upgrade my Ortofon Concorde, which also has a spherical stylus.]]> Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:16:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7750&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7750 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1043&PID=7748&title=the-sound-of-vinyl#7748 Author: elcoleccionista
Subject: 1043
Posted: 30 October 2006 at 7:55pm

vanmeter wrote: I suspect what you're hearing is pinch effect distortion; all cartridges that I have tried that were not microline or equivalent styli exhibit some high frequency loss near the label. But of the two microlines I have, one eats up styrene 45s sometimes, and the other is pretty safe, so they're harder to deal with using on 45s.

Vanmeter, all the complaints I had made about some of the vinyl playback issues I had written about on this post are pretty much gone, since yesterday I have an Audio Technica AT440MLa microline cartridge hooked up to my 1210 MK2, and it simply blew me away.

A fellow memeber from the Steve Hoffman forum who coincidentally happens to live not only in Buenos Aires as I do, but in my neighboorhood, saw my post crying for help to set the Audio Technica correctly. He sent me a private message, offered his help, refused to charge me, and did a fine job at tuning it to avoid mistracking, etc. His appearance was a blessing. The Lord works in mysterious ways sometimes : P

With this AT cartridge, there is basically no inner groove distortion, on neither 7" or 12" singles, nor LP's. At most what I notice is a very slight loss of high frequencies if you compare start and end of the record, but it is minimal, and I know it is inherent to vinyl playback with a diagonal system as most turntables are, as opposed as how the record is cut, paralell to the groove.

And anyway what ate my nerves with the Ortofon spherical was the increasing distortion towards the end.

Another huge annoyance of the past setup, sibilance, is also gone on all LP's and 12" singles, a little only on some 7" singles, which before were unbearable to listen to my ears. Most 12" records can pass as compact disc recordings, incredible in absence of sibilance specifically, which can easily give away a vinyl recording.

Now, the cartridge did eat away one styrene 7" single that I didn't really care for, that is why I tried that one (Tim Finn's "How'm I Gonna Sleep", I love the song, but I have it on CD already).

Since you mention you have two microline styli, which ones do you have, and which one does not eat your styrenes?







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