https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 12:27:05 +0000 Fri, 05 Jul 2013 05:28:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1115 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=38347&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#38347 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1115
Posted: 05 July 2013 at 5:28am

why do i always have the odd 45!.....my commercial 45
issued as motown 54261 lists on the label a run time of
4:15 but actually runs 3:13...the run out groove info is
'T54261F-63147-S-03D #T4'....so there are surely TWO
commercial vinyl versions of this 45 after all!

Edited by edtop40]]> Fri, 05 Jul 2013 05:28:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=38347&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#38347 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6077&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6077 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 1115
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 12:50pm

Pat, our commercial copy states and runs 4:15.]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:50:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6077&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6077 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6060&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6060 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 1115
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 6:46pm

Well I don't know about my statement regarding a commercial copy with a stated time of (4:15) but an actual time of (3:13) but I would guess that I found a better quality 45 and threw away the 45 that ran (3:13). But I did come across a dj edit that runs (3:13) that states (3:16) and the matrix number on the stereo side is T54261F 63147-S-03C while the matrix number on the mono side is T54261F 63147-M-03C. I notice Joel Whitburn lists the commercial copy as running (3:13) so maybe Paul Haney can verify the existence of a commercial copy that runs (3:13).]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:46:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6060&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6060 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6043&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6043 Author: jimct
Subject: 1115
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 12:55am

The database currently states a listed time of (4:15), but an actual time of
(3:13). But both sides of my promo 45 AND my stock 45 state and actually
DO run (4:15). Stock deadwax says T54260; then there's a large "smudge"
I've never seen on deadwax before, which is trying to obscure "63147 - 2AS
RE-1 1-S-03B". Since the label says this is Tamla T54261F, having one
number BEFORE that appear in the deadwax is a little weird. My promo's
stereo promo deadwax says "T54261-63147-2A RE-1 1-S-03A"; mono
promo deadwax is the same, except for "1-M-03B" at the end. I'm sure you
do possess a (3:13) length 45, Pat. Just reporting to you what I happen to
have.

Edited by jimct]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:55:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1115&PID=6043&title=smokey-robinsonthe-agony-and-the-ecstasy#6043