https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 13:12:49 +0000 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:46:39 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1169 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38635&title=immature-never-lie#38635 Author: Smokin' TomGary
Subject: 1169
Posted: 26 July 2013 at 12:46pm

MCA5P-3021

1-Radio Version 4:04 listed; 4:02 actual
2-Album Version 4:14 listed; 4:11 actual
3-Ocean Sea Remix 4:51 listed; 4:50 actual
4-Padapella Version 4:14 listed; 4:11 actual
5-Instrumental Version 4:13 listed; 4:11 actual
]]> Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:46:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38635&title=immature-never-lie#38635 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38632&title=immature-never-lie#38632 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1169
Posted: 25 July 2013 at 7:54pm

Tom, if you have run time info for promo CD MCA5P-3021, would you be so kind to pass this on to us please?

It looks like the database is going to need to clarify that there are two different versions of "Never Lie" on promo CD singles where both are listed as the "Radio Version". The Immature/IMx Greatest Hits CD contains the "Radio Version" with spoken intro, which is actually just an early fade of the 45 and LP length.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:54:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38632&title=immature-never-lie#38632 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38630&title=immature-never-lie#38630 Author: Smokin' TomGary
Subject: 1169
Posted: 25 July 2013 at 6:33pm

To answer your question, Todd the answers are "yes" and "no". Promo CD MCA5P-3190 has Radio Version and Radio Version II. The first track has a :28 intro and the second has a :14 intro, neither with vocal.

Promo CD MCA5P-3021 has Track 1 Radio Version with the vocal intro. It has 5 tracks total.

There is also MCA5P-3219 with 4 live tracks.

Stock CD MCADM-54949 has 3 versions of "Constantly" and the da'bomb street mix of Never Lie.]]> Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:33:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38630&title=immature-never-lie#38630 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38619&title=immature-never-lie#38619 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1169
Posted: 24 July 2013 at 10:29pm

I don't think we ever got to the bottom of this one... I did an A/B comparison between Immature's "Never Lie" on the Playtyme Is Over parent CD (MCA 11068) and the "Radio Version" of the track on the group's Greatest Hits (Hip-O 088112447) disc. As best as I can tell, the "Radio Version" on the latter CD is just an early fade of the 45/LP length.

Now, was anyone ever able to confirm the existence of two different tracks called the "Radio Version" on promo CD single where one contains talking during the intro and the other one doesn't?]]> Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:29:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=38619&title=immature-never-lie#38619 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23553&title=immature-never-lie#23553 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1169
Posted: 01 September 2009 at 9:28pm

I'll keep my eye open for a copy, Jim. Thanks for the additional details!]]> Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:28:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23553&title=immature-never-lie#23553 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23551&title=immature-never-lie#23551 Author: jimct
Subject: 1169
Posted: 01 September 2009 at 8:59pm

Aaron, after your most recent post, I checked my friend Tom's master promo CD single inventory file, and, sure enough, he has TWO other promo CD singles! One features "live" versions of "Never Lie" (although I don't know if all 4 tracks on this disc are live.) Usually, MCA did occasionally release promo-only, "live" versions of current hits, later during its hit chart run, at least once or twice a year, when available. MCA was the only major label to do this with any regularity during these years, to my recollection (MCA5P-3219). Tom's other promo CD single is a 5-track promo, with a catalog # of MCA5P-3021. My best guess is that this last promo likely contains your "Radio Version", Aaron, and I have just added this promo to my personal want list as well.]]> Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:59:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23551&title=immature-never-lie#23551 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23549&title=immature-never-lie#23549 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1169
Posted: 01 September 2009 at 8:33pm

Jim, thanks for the details, sir! There is definitely a promo with a "Radio Version" that starts with the acoustic guitar and talking over the intro ("Friends come a dime a dozen..."). In fact, I think this might have been the only promo we received. I just checked my database and found this song on a Network 40 radio compilation disc (#72), which jogged my memory. Our station played the talkless intro version from the Network 40 CD and not the promo CD that you have.]]> Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:33:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23549&title=immature-never-lie#23549 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23548&title=immature-never-lie#23548 Author: jimct
Subject: 1169
Posted: 01 September 2009 at 8:22pm

Aaron, I do not own the LP/45 version of this song, which, based on your comments, includes talk at the start of it. However, neither cut on the promo CD single we got in for the song back in 1994 starts with talk. The only difference I can discern between the two tracks is that, as you correctly remember, the instrumental intro is just about cut in half on cut 2. Here are the details:

Immature-"Never Lie" (MCA5P-3190)
1-Radio Version (listed 4:04; actual 4:03)
2-Radio Version II (listed & actual 3:50) **

** - version we played on-air at my station as a current

Edited by jimct]]> Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:22:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23548&title=immature-never-lie#23548 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23547&title=immature-never-lie#23547 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1169
Posted: 01 September 2009 at 7:53pm

What's the difference between the Radio Version and LP/45 version (other than the run time)? Is it an edit, early fade, or different mix?

Our station played this from a promo CD that also contained a "no talk" intro. I don't recall the official name of that version, but it was essentially the same as the radio version, but the talking was missing, and I believe it shorted the instrumental intro in half.]]> Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:53:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=23547&title=immature-never-lie#23547 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=6290&title=immature-never-lie#6290 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1169
Posted: 12 July 2006 at 10:35pm

I always just assumed the CD/LP version of "Never Lie" and the commercial single were the same. When a 45 and LP version are identical, there's not really a need to explicitly document this in the database, is there? (Unless of course there was a widespread misconception that the radio edit or remix of "Never Lie" is the single version.)]]> Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:35:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1169&PID=6290&title=immature-never-lie#6290