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Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 4:12pm

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Edited by sheardbeard]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:12:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66153&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66153 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66152&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66152 Author: sheardbeard
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 4:12pm

Todd Ireland wrote: By the way, I never knew it was possible to type emoticons on this message board... Can you generate them here or just simply copy and paste them from elsewhere?

I
typed my earlier message (and this one) from my phone and apparently the
emoticon “took”   😁👍🏻🎶 🎼🎵🎧🎸🥁

Edited by sheardbeard]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:12:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66152&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66152 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66150&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66150 Author: aaronk
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 3:50pm

edtop40 wrote: guys......just so you know.....the cassingle has a slightly different intro than the full cd version.....i've tried matching the intro that is on the cd "pump" but i can't match it correctly.....the cd "pump" has about 0:10 of banter before the song starts.....the cassingle isn't just a straight clip of the banter, it seams to have additional banter that isn't on the full cd/lp version......

I'm basing my assumption on this comment, but I still need to hear the cassette single to know if the "additional banter" Ed is talking about is what can be heard on the "Remix."]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:50:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66150&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66150 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66149&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66149 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 3:45pm

sheardbeard wrote: Getting crazy specific here, but I noticed even the “chhh” is a different “chhh” in the “mm-chhh” vs “chhh” intros. 🤪

LOL! No worries, sheardbeard, you're in good company here when it comes to being hyper-focused on minutia!

By the way, I never knew it was possible to type emoticons on this message board... Can you generate them here or just simply copy and paste them from elsewhere?]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:45:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66149&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66149 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66148&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66148 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 3:28pm

aaronk wrote: Todd Ireland wrote: Also, it would probably be useful to mention in the song's database title notes that the “LP version” on this promo CD single is actually the 45/single version but runs faster and fades out several seconds sooner. I just put the Pump CD version and the promo CD "LP Version" in the multi-tracker, and they are digitally identical but with a +0.7dB boost to the promo CD. The full-length CD also segues into the next track, although the volume of "Janie" is so low at this point, you'd only notice if you had the volume "pumped" (pun intended). So, yes, the promo CD does continue for about :03 longer, but even boosting the volume +25dB, you can barely hear anything (negligable, IMO). I also noticed that the promo CD single uses the actual Pump LP version but just edits off the intro. You can hear the glass harp sound effect overlapping the first note. I believe what has been reported in this thread is that the cassette single opens in the same way as the "Remix" with no overlapping sound effect and a split second of additional audio that is not heard on the full-length CD. If you listen to the "Remix," you can hear Steven Tyler make a slight noise just before the "chhh" sound. I know it's splitting hairs, but techincally, the promo CD doesn't have the cassette single version, and yes, technically that means the cassette single is a unique version still MIA on CD.

I was under the impression that the 45/single version was essentially the equivalent of the LP version minus the intro. And because the "LP Version" on the promo CD single release doesn't contain the Pump LP intro, I decided to compare it to the 45/single version to see if they are identical. But since I don't have a copy of the cassette single, which was the only commercial single format issued for "Janie's Got a Gun" in the U.S., I used the Aerosmith Big Ones CD (Geffen 24716) as the basis for my "45 version" comparison with the so-called "LP Version" on the promo CD single. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have used the Big Ones CD as a "45 version" reference point in the first place because there's no guarantee that it's mastered identically in every way to what's actually on the on cassette single, including the length and speed. That said, there is a slight, yet noticeable speed difference between those two sources, so now I'm wondering if there's also a similar speed difference between the actual single version and LP version?

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:28:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66148&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66148 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66147&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66147 Author: sheardbeard
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 2:40pm

Getting crazy specific here, but I noticed even the “chhh” is a different
“chhh” in the “mm-chhh” vs “chhh” intros. 🤪

Edited by sheardbeard]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:40:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66147&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66147 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66146&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66146 Author: aaronk
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 10:55am

As a follow up, it appears European CD copies of Devil's Got A New Disguise: The Very Best Of Aerosmith include the "CHR Remix" (aka "CHR Full Intro Remix"), while US CDs have the LP version without "Water Song" on the intro. It's the European version that has been made avaialble on digital streaming services here in the US.]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:55:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66146&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66146 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66145&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66145 Author: aaronk
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 10:51am

Yes, we certainly do! And yes, in a post on the first page, I'm assuming that's what Ed is referring to as the "unique" audio on the official single version, along with the absense of the overlapping glass harp sound effect. What you're hearing the digital Very Best Of Aerosmith album is the "CHR Full Intro Remix" from the promo CD.]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:51:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66145&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66145 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66144&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66144 Author: sheardbeard
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 10:43am

While thumbing through the multiple different sources of "Janie's Got A Gun" (via Apple Music) I think I finally heard the millisecond throaty swallow sound at the beginning on "The Very Best of Aerosmith" (2006)... "Mm-chhh" as
opposed to just "chhh". My assumption is the "mm-chhh" is at the beginning of the cassette single. Wow, we certainly get down to the granular details here, don't we? haha]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:43:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66144&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66144 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66139&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66139 Author: aaronk
Subject: 126
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 9:36am

I can say for sure these CDs all have the overlapping sound effect on the first note (and probably don't match the cassette single exactly):

Big Ones
O Yeah! Ultimate Hits
Devil's Got A New Disguise]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 09:36:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126&PID=66139&title=aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun#66139