https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 13 Apr 2026 21:23:00 +0000 Fri, 31 May 2024 08:59:22 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1326 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=64800&title=aerosmith-dream-on#64800 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 1326
Posted: 31 May 2024 at 8:59am

Has anyone been able to confirm that the
short stereo mix on the promo 45 of Columbia
3-10278 actually matches both the edit and
mix on the stereo stock and promo release of
Columbia 4-45894 ? I ask because I note that
they have different matrix numbers, and I'd
assume that if it was just the short remix
version being reused, they would have just
pulled the original tape and not had a new
master made. ]]> Fri, 31 May 2024 08:59:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=64800&title=aerosmith-dream-on#64800 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49636&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49636 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1326
Posted: 10 July 2018 at 5:20am

EdisonLite wrote: Just got them Jody. Thanks for the reminder and making them available!

Cool, I'll delete those, and thank you. I look forward to your critique ...lol

Cheers my friend.
:)
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Subject: 1326
Posted: 24 June 2018 at 12:33am

Just got them Jody. Thanks for the reminder and making them available!]]> Sun, 24 Jun 2018 00:33:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49473&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49473 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49458&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49458 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1326
Posted: 20 June 2018 at 6:08am

Hi EdisonLite:

Did you download these mixes already? Just let me know when you have, and I can remove them. I will patiently wait until you've downloaded them
:)
]]> Wed, 20 Jun 2018 06:08:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49458&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49458 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49140&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49140 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 1326
Posted: 29 March 2018 at 12:04pm

Thanks Jody. I'm a bit behind due to computer problems but will listen to your 3 edits! (Also Jody, I cleared out my inbox - didn't realize it was limited to 25 inbound messages. That's why you couldn't PM me. Now I've deleted those 25 inbox messages, so I can be PM'd again).]]> Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:04:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49140&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49140 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49060&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49060 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1326
Posted: 09 March 2018 at 6:49am

EdisonLite wrote: To me, there's just one bad edit

@EdisonLite
I attempted respond to your PM, but your Inbox is too full.
Sorry for the late reply. So I'm linking the files here from Yandex Disk. I have created a DropBox account for you, and placed the files up there as requested. Again though, I have no way of sending you a PM, since your mailbox is full.

So there are three versions:

My Original Edit

My Improved Edit (with a shorter more precise bridge between the verses)

Similar to the Improved Edit
(but with a dryer EQ and "echo" effects on the guitar solos at the end, thereby mimicking the single remix ....lol - I tried)


Edited by Jody Thornton]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2018 06:49:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49060&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49060 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49053&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49053 Author: Tom Daly
Subject: 1326
Posted: 06 March 2018 at 6:20pm

CBS was always remixing and editing singles once Clive Davis replaced Mitch Miller as the head of A&R at Columbia. Epic wasn't as aggressive about edits as Columbia. "Dream On" was up there in 1973, but notable priors are Big Brother & the Holding Company's "Piece of My Heart" and It's a Beautiful Day's "White Bird." The latter cannot be re-created from the album mix, but the former can, although both singles were mono only.]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:20:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=49053&title=aerosmith-dream-on#49053 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=48885&title=aerosmith-dream-on#48885 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1326
Posted: 29 January 2018 at 9:49am

Regarding the remixing, Jody, it seems they probably remixed the entire song and then decided to edit it. Somewhere in the vaults likely sits the full, unedited remix.]]> Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:49:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=48885&title=aerosmith-dream-on#48885 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=48884&title=aerosmith-dream-on#48884 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1326
Posted: 29 January 2018 at 7:44am

Just tried an alternate to the replacement of the first chorus. I grabbed from 2:04 through to 2:34, and used that to replace what was formerly between 1:14 and 1:39. It really works well.

Again, I can't for the life of me why they wouldn't have that instead. These were within the realm of analog tape editing
(head shaking)

Anyone who wants to hear what I came up with can message me.
:)

Edited by Jody Thornton]]> Mon, 29 Jan 2018 07:44:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=48884&title=aerosmith-dream-on#48884 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=48883&title=aerosmith-dream-on#48883 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1326
Posted: 29 January 2018 at 7:33am

EdisonLite wrote: To me, there's just one bad edit -- at the end of Chorus 1. It starts in one word and continues in another, much like the choppy edit on Steve Winwood's "While You See a Chance". That said, when I heard both songs on the radio as a kid (and the edited versions were played), I never noticed the edits! This was partially due to the fact I had never heard the album versions back then. I, too, like the mix on the short version of "Dream On" better. And btw, I lived outside Boston at the time, where this was a #1 hit in 1973 ... so the actual 45 I bought was this edit/remix.

Actually I'd say three of the edits are pretty poor. The first edit that would've excised from :12 to :37 is really cludgy. It sounds like you hear the beginning of the downbeat from the edit out point, before the pick up point. So you get a doubled up bass strum.

Going from the first chorus (which I realize was placed in there) to the pickup point on the LP version at 1:26 (boy is that jarring). Given that no time was saved, it makes me wonder why they didn't just leave what's in there originally, I get they probably wanted to familiarize the audience with that strong chorus, especially given that the last instance of the chorus is nixed out at the end.

Which brings us to the edit from 2:19 to 2:58 - yikes. I just pulled out my Greatest Hits LP and tried replicating the edit, but instead I took the last past of the third chorus and joined it with the second. So my edit is from the downbeat at 2:10, and the pick up point is at 2:49. The edit sounds great - WHY ON EARTH DID THEY NOT JUST DO THAT ???

I also wonder if the track is actually remixed or if the EQ was altered at some point. The guitar track after "comes true" sound like the midrange was boosted with echo applied. I suppose I wondered about that, because remixing would mean you had access to the multi-track tape, which mean much better editing should have been possible.
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