https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 03:03:25 +0000 Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:20:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=49108&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#49108 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1360
Posted: 23 March 2018 at 3:20pm

The song is not titled "A Horse With No Brain", despite typical conversations at our house.

LP and 45 versions (4:10)

The LP and 45 versions were the same. The 45 was in stereo.

The opening strums of the acoustic guitar are panned a little to the left.

The oldest CD I have with the LP/45 version is Sessions/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Freedom Rock (1987). It's from a high-generation tape source here, and sounds a little muffled. Just about all of the CDs below sound better.

There's a far better analog transfer on Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1972 (1989), where it runs 4:10. It sounds great here, with low-generation source tapes, great dynamic range, nice EQ, and no hint of noise reduction. There are digital clones on:

• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 3 1972 (1989) - digitally identical
• Madacy's Rock On 1972 (1996) - digitally exactly 0.5 dB louder

Rhino's Mellow Rock Hits Summer Breeze (1997) seems to use the same source tape as Billboard, but blunts the high end. I prefer the EQ on Billboard.

I think that JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1970-1974 (1994) uses a different analog transfer of the same source tape as Billboard Top R&R Hits 1972, but has a slightly shorter fade. There are differently-EQ'd digital clones of Only on:

• Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion Vol. 1 Sunshine (2005)
• Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 2 Ride Like The Wind (2006)

Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 11 1972 (1991) uses the same analog transfer as Billboard Top R&R Hits 1972, but swaps the left and right channels, so that the opening strums of the acoustic guitar are panned a little to the right. All the tracks on this Superhits disc have their left and right channels reversed. The same disc was later repackaged as AM Gold Vol. 7 1972 (1991), with the same mastering. There was an RE-1 reissue of AM Gold Vol. 7 1972, which swapped out a few tracks, but left "Horse" intact along with its left/right channel reversal. Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 1 1972-1973 (2000) is digitally identical to these, and also has its left/right channels swapped.

An outlier: Razor & Tie/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Easy '70s (1993) has its left and right channels swapped, and is way too loud and clips a lot. Avoid.

Non-hit 1975 remix from History album (4:07)

I don't recall if all the tracks on WB's History/America's Greatest Hits, but "Horse" is definitely remixed. To my ears, it sounds better than the original mix. It's not a drastic overhaul, but a subtle improvement. To differentiate from the hit mix, the History has the opening strums of the acoustic guitar centered, rather than panned left.

Discogs shows WB's History/America's Greatest Hits as being released on CD in 1987. It sounds quite nice here, runs 4:07, and truncates the tail of the fade. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Priority's Seventies Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 12 #1 Groups (1992) - hastens fade
• Razor & Tie's 6-CD 70 Number One Hits Of The 70s Vol. 5 (1998) - hastens fade

My recommendation

For the hit version, go with Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1972 (1989).]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:20:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=49108&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#49108 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22130&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22130 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 1360
Posted: 05 May 2009 at 5:45pm

edtop40 wrote: now....i just compared the vinyl 45 versus the cd version on the cd below... (S) (4:10) Rhino 70633 Billboard's Top Rock & Roll Hits Of 1972 and it matches perfectly....it's the correct version with the proper echoing effects during the outro....and it runs true at 4:10 just like the vinyl 45......this info should be noted in the db....

Thanks for the info, Ed!]]> Tue, 05 May 2009 17:45:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22130&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22130 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22129&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22129 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1360
Posted: 05 May 2009 at 2:47pm

now....i just compared the vinyl 45 versus the cd version on the cd below...

(S) (4:10) Rhino 70633 Billboard's Top Rock & Roll Hits Of 1972

and it matches perfectly....it's the correct version with the proper echoing effects during the outro....and it runs true at 4:10 just like the vinyl 45......this info should be noted in the db....

]]> Tue, 05 May 2009 14:47:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22129&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22129 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22090&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22090 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1360
Posted: 02 May 2009 at 7:59am

i just listened to the version from the cd's below versus the vinyl 45 and the version on "complete" is the same as the vinyl 45.....the "history" cd version is different.....specifically during the fade out.....the "history" cd version, the fade out is louder and doesn't contain the echoing effect that is on the 45 and the "complete" cd version......this MAY not be enough of a diffrence for some but it is for me.....the "complete" cd version also runs just a few seconds short because they faded it out as to not include the truncated ending...

The Complete Greatest Hits
Warner Archives/Rhino 74375

History/America's Greatest Hits
Warner Brothers 3110]]> Sat, 02 May 2009 07:59:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=22090&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#22090 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7229&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7229 Author: davidclark
Subject: 1360
Posted: 12 September 2006 at 6:22am

Grant, could you shed some light on which tracks on "Gord's Gold" are remixed and how?]]> Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:22:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7229&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7229 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7219&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7219 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1360
Posted: 10 September 2006 at 6:05pm

Are there other differences on "Horse With No Name" other than the guitars switching channels? Added reverb, extra instruments, etc.?]]> Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:05:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7219&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7219 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7213&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7213 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 1360
Posted: 10 September 2006 at 12:06pm

Just as a footnote for subscribers to the database, I do not define moving instruments from the right channel or the left channel to the center as a remix. If I did, I would have to compare every song in its entirety to every appearance on cd which would be time prohibitive.]]> Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:06:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7213&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7213 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7195&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7195 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1360
Posted: 09 September 2006 at 9:23am

I used to have the America's Greatest Hits: History CD but immediately got rid of it after purchasing the Complete Greatest Hits disc because I always thought the sound quality on the History set was terrible! But now I'm curious if other CD compilations containing Top 40 hits by America are all original mixes, or do some use the George Martin remixes from the History disc? Anyone have any insight on this?]]> Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:23:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7195&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7195 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7188&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7188 Author: Grant
Subject: 1360
Posted: 08 September 2006 at 4:36pm

Bill Inglot, who mastered the Complete Greatest Hits, used the original mixes. Remember that George Martin has a thing for remixing stuff.


Though not the topic of this thread, it's also worth noting that the recent Complete Gordon Lightfoot Gresatest Hits CD also uses all of the original mixes, unlike "Gord's Gold".]]> Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:36:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7188&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7188 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1360&PID=7178&title=america-horse-with-no-name-remixed#7178 Author: budaniel
Subject: 1360
Posted: 07 September 2006 at 6:14pm

wow. that's huge info. Thanks. Now I wonder which mix is on all the other CDs/compilations, etc., on which it appears.

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