https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 01:53:21 +0000 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:23:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1579 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=49470&title=styxmademoiselle#49470 Author: sriv94
Subject: 1579
Posted: 22 June 2018 at 8:23pm

sriv94 wrote: That CD also has "Sing For The Day" (which was the B-side to "Renegade") in its LP version (45 had a listed time of (3:39), LP runs (4:57)), and "Borrowed Time" (running (4:58)--I believe, but I'm not positive, that the 45 and LP were the same). Both songs just missed BILLBOARD's top 40.

The stock 45 of "Borrowed Time" is in fact the LP version, but there is a promo that snipped out the keyboard intro
(first 42-43 seconds) and starts with the guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5BevyHuVIo

Edited by sriv94]]> Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:23:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=49470&title=styxmademoiselle#49470 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8153&title=styxmademoiselle#8153 Author: sriv94
Subject: 1579
Posted: 16 December 2006 at 6:59pm

Todd Ireland wrote: While we're on the subject of "Mademoiselle"... The song also appears on Styx's Greatest Hits, Part 2 CD on A&M 540550, which is now out-of-print, but the database doesn't note this CD title anywhere. This disc also contains the band's Top 40 hit "Love at First Sight". Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of this CD so I can't pass along the actual run times.

I can help with this. "Mademoiselle" runs (3:59), "Love At First Sight" runs (4:33).

That CD also has "Sing For The Day" (which was the B-side to "Renegade") in its LP version (45 had a listed time of (3:39), LP runs (4:57)), and "Borrowed Time" (running (4:58)--I believe, but I'm not positive, that the 45 and LP were the same). Both songs just missed BILLBOARD's top 40.

Not sure how to edit "Sing For The Day" down.

Edited by sriv94]]> Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:59:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8153&title=styxmademoiselle#8153 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8148&title=styxmademoiselle#8148 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1579
Posted: 16 December 2006 at 1:56pm

While we're on the subject of "Mademoiselle"... The song also appears on Styx's Greatest Hits, Part 2 CD on A&M 540550, which is now out-of-print, but the database doesn't note this CD title anywhere. This disc also contains the band's Top 40 hit "Love at First Sight". Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of this CD so I can't pass along the actual run times.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:56:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8148&title=styxmademoiselle#8148 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8132&title=styxmademoiselle#8132 Author: sriv94
Subject: 1579
Posted: 15 December 2006 at 7:56pm

sriv94 wrote: Can the LP version be edited and sped to match the 45, or are there other differences as well?

And now--to answer my own question.

Jim sent me a dub of his 45. After listening, I grabbed my LP version from The Millenium Collection series. His 45 runs (3:26), my LP version runs (4:01).

Using WavePad, which requires one to enter a number above or below 100% to speed up or slow down (you can't just tell it to speed it up by 2.5%), I sped it up to 104% (which would assume a 4% increase in speed/pitch). That dropped the LP time to (3:51).

One edit needed to be made to match the 45 (it's not just a fade issue), and I found it to be a little tricky. With it already sped up, the edit I made was between the (2:34.91) mark and the (2:57.55) mark. While it may not be the precise exact point of edit, it was pretty doggone close (the more exact editors of this room could probably nail it down further). That got me down to (3:29), and there was about 7 seconds of dead time at the end of the CD track included in that, so chop some of that off and I think we're good.

Jim, thanks for shooting that dub to me.

Edited by sriv94]]> Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:56:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8132&title=styxmademoiselle#8132 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8124&title=styxmademoiselle#8124 Author: sriv94
Subject: 1579
Posted: 14 December 2006 at 9:04am

Can the LP version be edited and sped to match the 45, or are there other differences as well?]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:04:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8124&title=styxmademoiselle#8124 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8114&title=styxmademoiselle#8114 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 1579
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 6:57pm

My white label dj copy, matrix #12138-S S6 runs (3:23) not (3:25) as stated on the record label. Even the (3:23) 45 speed is much faster than the LP version.

Edited by Pat Downey]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:57:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8114&title=styxmademoiselle#8114 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8110&title=styxmademoiselle#8110 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1579
Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:48pm

LOL!!!...nice story.....]]> Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:48:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8110&title=styxmademoiselle#8110 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8109&title=styxmademoiselle#8109 Author: jimct
Subject: 1579
Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:06pm

Both my stock and promo 45s have a listed time of (3:25), but an actual time of (3:23), so all of the CD versions are either LP version or LP length. Back in 1976, it took me THREE tries to finally obtain a non-defective stock copy on this (deadwax AM-12138-S P3). The first 2 I bought (and still have) feature the song pressed at "Chipmunk speed" - same take, but these 2 45s wrap up in a blistering (3:08), and has a deadwax of (AM 12138-S P1). Hard to believe it got all the way into stores without A&M ever catching the goof - sounds like it's spinning at 52RPM! I'm sure some 1976 "Chipmunk mix" 45s are still out there, this being the holiday season and all....]]> Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:06:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1579&PID=8109&title=styxmademoiselle#8109