https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 21:44:52 +0000 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:53:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1690 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44574&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44574 Author: jimct
Subject: 1690
Posted: 29 October 2015 at 12:53am

Please accept my profound apologies for both the long delay in re-
checking my "Jeans On" 45, and for an inaccurate actual timing report
made back in 2008. "Senior Moments" are especially frustrating when
ultra-minute details and deep research are one's supposed area of
expertise. Gotta find some vintage notebook paper, and write "I will try
harder to be more accurate in the future" 500 times, like my CT teachers
made us do back in grammar school. (Ah, the good old days...)

I have no clue why I ever reported an actual run time of (2:34), as my
attached Post-it note has stated forever "listed and actual time (2:37)". My
re-timing tonight confirms (2:37), and that it runs just short of (2:38),
exactly as Robert's original post had noted. I own three stock 45s (all
confirmed as Chrysalis 2094). All three of them have the exact same
deadwax info: "CHS-2094-AS RE-1". There are three forceful, transitional
keyboard notes that appear twice during the song (the first at around :52,
as Robert had indicated earlier), and those are clearly the most stereo
notes of the song, and jumped out pretty clearly, even to my "OK at best"
ear for sonic detail.

I also own two Chrysalis 2094 promo 45 copies. The stereo side for both
copies has the exact same deadwax info as my 3 stock copies do, while
the mono side's deadwax is identical, save for one character - an "M"
where the "S" appeared on the stereo side. The mono side also has both a
listed & actual time of (2:37); again just short of (2:38).

]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:53:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44574&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44574 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44572&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44572 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 1690
Posted: 28 October 2015 at 8:53pm

crapfromthepast wrote: I believe I found two UK CDs that have an electronically processed for stereo version of the LP/UK 45 version! That's right, the dreaded (E)!

And then there's the true stereo version I have on a various artist UK 2-CD set "40 No. 1 Hits". That's my "go to" version. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I edited it to match the edit of the US mono 45, but this way I get to hear it in true stereo and not E or mono.

Edited by EdisonLite]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 20:53:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44572&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44572 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44570&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44570 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1690
Posted: 28 October 2015 at 8:16pm

Revisiting "Jeans On", five years later...

It appears that the LP version and the UK 45 are in extremely narrow stereo. The synthy instrument at 0:53 is panned just-so-slightly to the left, as noted above. Everything else is pretty much centered.

The LP/UK 45 version runs about 3:16. The ending of the LP/UK 45 version is looped - the 52 beats from 1:59 to 2:29 are repeated from 2:29 to 2:58. The same 52-beat passage begins one more time at 2:58, but extends only for 32 beats, with a 32-beat fade from 2:58 to about 3:16.

I prefer the LP/UK 45 version on Disky UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000), which runs 3:16. It has a decent dynamic range, a slightly brassy EQ, and seems to be from a tape source. The track uses a drum machine, and there's a little tape drift, so the song starts at 104.7 BPM and ends at about 105.0 BPM. There's an edit at 2:58, which you can hear if you listen for it. The edit also shows up as a discontinuity between adjacent beats.

The LP/UK 45 version also sounds good on EMI Australia's 5-CD Seventies Complete Vol. 2 (1999), where it runs 3:17 and seems to be taken from a tape source. I've said bad things about the EMI Australia 5-CD sets, but this track sounds quite nice here.

Unless my ears fail me, I believe I found two UK CDs that have an electronically processed for stereo version of the LP/UK 45 version! That's right, the dreaded (E)! Avoid Disky UK's Beat Goes On Vol. 9 (1997) and Disky UK's 8-CD Wow That Was The 70's (1999), both of which pan everything to the left (in an E sort of way) and warble when summed to mono.

I have two different needledrops of the 45, and both show a non-musical thunk about 0.1 seconds before the keyboards kick in. It's probably a mastering error, and isn't on the CDs I listed above. One needledrop of the 45 runs 2:37; the other runs about 2:35 but includes noise reduction so it's tough to hear where the fade ends. It, too, is the same very narrow stereo, with the synthy instrument panned slightly left at 0:53.

The US 45 version can be edited down from the LP/UK 45 version. Here are editing instructions, using Disky UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000) as the source:

Segment 1
254 beats long
Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:25.7 of US 45 version and LP/UK 45 version
Ends on a downbeat

Remove the 32 beats from 2:25.7 to 2:44.0 of the LP/UK 45 version.

Segment 2
Begins on a downbeat
25 beats long
Extends from 2:25.7 to 2:39.9 of US 45 version
Extends from 2:44.0 to 2:58.2 of LP/UK 45 version
Ends on a snare

Fade
45 beats long
Extends from 2:14.3 to 2:39.9 of US 45 version
You'll have to do the edit first, then do the fade afterward, because the fade extends over the edit.

Your mixdown will run 2:39.9, with an edit at 2:25.7 and a 45-beat fade from 2:14.3 to 2:39.9.

The version on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 19 (1993) is pretty darn close to the US, but differs in four ways: (1) it omits the thunk at 0:00, (2) it's mixed to true mono, (3) it shortens the pause at 0:37 by about 0.02 seconds, which isn't all that significant but it visibly throws off the beats in the waveform, and (4) it runs a little short at 2:34. It also sounds like it's underwater, compared to the LP versions I listed above. In the US, it appears that all the CDs that feature the song are based on the Have A Nice Day Vol. 19 mastering, so you're out of luck unless you look for a UK disc.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 20:16:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44570&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44570 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44025&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44025 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1690
Posted: 26 July 2015 at 8:27pm

my commercial 45 issued as chrysalis 2094 has the run out
groove info as "CHS-2094-AS RE-1"...and it runs
2:37.....don't know where the 2:34 time came from.....pat,
my commercial 45 definetly runs 2:37.....]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:27:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44025&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44025 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44021&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44021 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 1690
Posted: 26 July 2015 at 8:05am

Bringing this topic back up... I noticed Jim never
responded with his 45's matrix info. ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:05:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=44021&title=david-dundasjeans-on#44021 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32288&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32288 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1690
Posted: 25 December 2011 at 5:56pm

Pat Downey wrote: Jim reports a commercial 45 running time of (2:37) and Ed reports a running time of (2:34) -- do we have two different pressings of this 45?

Actually, it's the other way around...Jim had the slightly shorter one.
Jim...what's the matrix # on yours?]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:56:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32288&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32288 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32283&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32283 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 1690
Posted: 25 December 2011 at 9:07am

Jim reports a commercial 45 running time of (2:37) and Ed reports a running time of (2:34) -- do we have two different pressings of this 45?]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:07:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32283&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32283 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32274&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32274 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 1690
Posted: 24 December 2011 at 10:21am

The version used on "Super Hits of the '70s Vol. 19" was pulled from vinyl. I'm almost certain it was faded 3 seconds merely early to hide the obvious sounds of vinyl which would be most present during the song's fade. Despite its year of release, the 45 was indeed released in mono (or I suppose virtual mono, as one person above found a sound that was 1 degree over from the center at 0:52). I don't know of any US stereo 45s. BUT ... there are several UK CDs that contain the song in stereo. However, they are longer than the US 45 and don't have the edit that occurs near the end of the US 45. I took the stereo mix on an import CD, did the one edit that was on the 45, and faded accordingly, effectively creating the version I always heard on the radio, but in nice stereo. And btw, regarding the edit, it's not a typical edit that simply snips a portion. As I recall, it goes BACK to a previous spot to repeat, "I put my blue jeans on, I put my old blue jeans on" 3 more times (which does not happen on the UK versions.)

Edited by EdisonLite]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:21:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32274&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32274 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32271&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32271 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1690
Posted: 24 December 2011 at 9:18am

My commercial copy agrees with Ed's.

Maybe a pressing plant variation between this and Jim's slightly shorter copy? I was living on the west coast when I picked up my copy of this.]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:18:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32271&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32271 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32269&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32269 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1690
Posted: 24 December 2011 at 8:53am

here is another one that'll drive us nuts....my
commercial 45 issued as chrysalis 2094 states the run
time on the label as 2:37 and does indeed run
2:37......it sounds exactly like the version from the cd
version on "super hits of the 70's volume 19" except it
runs about 0:03 LONGER than the cd version.....the
etching in the run out groove is..."chs-2094-as-re-
1".....is it possible that there are more than one
version of this 45....can anyone else state their 45's
etching so we can figure this one out......also...my 45
sounds mono, but it could be a very, very, very narrow
stereo.....but sounds mono to me.....it sounds exactly
like the super hits of the 70's cd version, just longer]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:53:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1690&PID=32269&title=david-dundasjeans-on#32269