https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:43:02 +0000 Thu, 22 Jun 2023 04:55:32 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1757 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63216&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63216 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1757
Posted: 22 June 2023 at 4:55am

Yah Shure wrote: The first AM station I worked at had an antenna current meter that would purposely engage only when one pushed an "audio cut" button while taking meter readings. While this resulted in an accurate reading, it also caused a blatantly obvious decrease in modulation while that button was held down. On many occasions, I took adavantage of the pauses in the "Monday, Monday"s and "Turn! Turn! Turn!"s of the music world to unobtrusively comply with FCC regs. :)

OK, a bit late to this party, but WRKO in Boston had a directional signal with different day and night patterns. Changing pattern
involved dropping the carrier for a couple seconds while a bunch of relays changed the antenna parameters. The studio & transmitter
engineers would often co-ordinate so a false end occurred right when it was time to do the pattern change.

The Hits Man wrote: Now, I read that Marvin Gaye purposely faded "What's Going On" just to piss off the station DJs, like getting in the last word.

If true, the joke would have been on him. Easy enough for DJs to dump out of a song early, especially one with a long fade or weird
ending. I've done it countless times.]]> Thu, 22 Jun 2023 04:55:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63216&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63216 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63214&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63214 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 1757
Posted: 21 June 2023 at 5:56pm

bwolfe wrote: Pauses in songs have always intrigued me. "Monday Monday", "The Little Girl I Once Knew", "Do You Love Me" and "Judy In Disguise" all has pauses or stops. Must have been an artistic thing.

The mono 45 of "Itchycoo Park" also has a fake fadeout.]]> Wed, 21 Jun 2023 17:56:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63214&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63214 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63212&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63212 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 1757
Posted: 21 June 2023 at 5:53pm

bwolfe wrote: Pauses in songs have always intrigued me. "Monday Monday", "The Little Girl I Once Knew", "Do You Love Me" and "Judy In Disguise" all has pauses or stops. Must have been an artistic thing.

The mono 45 of "Itchycoo Park" also has a fake fadeout.]]> Wed, 21 Jun 2023 17:53:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63212&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63212 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63189&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63189 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1757
Posted: 15 June 2023 at 12:57pm

The version on Motown's superb 1995 Marvin Gaye 2-CD collection Anthology is labeled in the database as stereo but with "very poor stereo separation".

You can hear some odd stereo-like artifacts if you listen in headphones.

I just discovered that the left and right channels are out of synch by about two samples. If you re-synch the left and right channels, the stereo-like artifacts disappear, and it's dead-center mono, just like all the other copies of the 45 version that have ever been released. (I confirmed in a null test.)

We should note this in the database as (M), but with desynchronization between the left and right channels. Or something to that effect. We shouldn't give people hope that the 45 version of "What's Going On" exists in stereo, or even poorly separated stereo. It doesn't. It's only mono.]]> Thu, 15 Jun 2023 12:57:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63189&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63189 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63166&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63166 Author: ddipas
Subject: 1757
Posted: 11 June 2023 at 12:02pm

I just picked up a Canadian CD, "The Very Best Of Marvin
Gaye" (1994). It has the mono 45 mix of "What's Going On."
However, the track ends after the first fade out followed
by six seconds of silence! Kind of a weird choice.

This CD also has the proper 45 version of "Sexual Healing,"
which is pretty hard to find.

Edited by ddipas]]> Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:02:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=63166&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#63166 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60132&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60132 Author: garye
Subject: 1757
Posted: 01 February 2022 at 9:53pm

LunarLaugh wrote: You can possibly create something resembling a stereo 45 version by editing the intro and outro from the instrumental version found on Universal's "20th Century Masters: Best of The Funk Brothers" CD onto the stereo album cut. There still might be some lingering 'chatter' track once the vocal kicks in. I'm also not sure if the stereo separation of the two versions would make for a smooth edit.

I tried this out last night and it came out pretty nice
on a first attempt!
If you have a copy of 20th Masters: The Funk Brothers
keep the 1st 8.9 seconds and then with the stereo LP
version of Whats Going On remove the 1st 16 seconds off
that and you'll have a nice stereo Copy recreation and it
fades at 3:41.]]> Tue, 01 Feb 2022 21:53:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60132&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60132 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60115&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60115 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 1757
Posted: 30 January 2022 at 11:31am

AndrewChouffi wrote: Possibly they DID play the 45 version, but the stations used heavy volume compression/processing which kept the volume level over-the-air consistent (or perhaps they carted it up correcting the volume drop). Andy

I suppose that's a possible explanation for my ignorance to the Tamala 45. What I don't understand is why they would pick that one, and none of the others. I think I
can say with some confidence that I distinctly remember all the other false fades. It is peculiar to me as to why this one had to be fixed or edited. ]]> Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:31:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60115&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60115 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60112&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60112 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 1757
Posted: 30 January 2022 at 8:58am

Andy -

I seem to remember that TM Century had a no false fade
version of "Suspicious Minds" on one of their GoldDiscs. It's
possible that your local station used that version.]]> Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:58:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60112&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60112 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60110&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60110 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 1757
Posted: 30 January 2022 at 6:17am

AdvprosD wrote: This tells me that either all the stations I grew up with didn't play the final tag of this song, or didn't play the 45 version, EVER!

Possibly they DID play the 45 version, but the stations
used heavy volume compression/processing which kept the
volume level over-the-air consistent (or perhaps they
carted it up correcting the volume drop). Even
primitive/inexpensive units such as the Shure Level-Loc
were sometimes used to handle this issue.

I remember the same reaction when I first heard
"Suspicious Minds" on vinyl a couple years later and
never realized there was a volume drop/return on that
fade based on prior radio play.

Andy

Edited by AndrewChouffi]]> Sun, 30 Jan 2022 06:17:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60110&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60110 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60107&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60107 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 1757
Posted: 30 January 2022 at 12:05am

I really can't believe I've missed this all my life. I just went over to youtube and looked for a 45 version. Sure enough, there's a false fade near the end.

This tells me that either all the stations I grew up with didn't play the final tag of this song, or didn't play the 45 version, EVER! I'm familiar with all
the other songs mentioned, but not this one. I guess I'm going to have to look around here and see if I can find one of those Tamala 45's. My local 45 store
is bound to have one for a couple dollars, so I can use it for reference. Also, kind of odd to hear it start without the intro of chatter.

Edited by AdvprosD]]> Sun, 30 Jan 2022 00:05:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1757&PID=60107&title=marvin-gaye-whats-going-on#60107