https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:23:16 +0000 Thu, 06 Apr 2023 20:56:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1813 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62865&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62865 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1813
Posted: 06 April 2023 at 8:56pm

Wow, that’s a cool find! I’ll have to see if I have the reissue 45. ]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2023 20:56:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62865&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62865 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62864&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62864 Author: eric_a
Subject: 1813
Posted: 06 April 2023 at 8:02pm

aaronk wrote: In fact, the video is not only a different mix, but it's a different vocal take in some places. The keyboard solo in the middle is totally different, too. This is the first time I've ever seen the music video, and I've never heard this alternate take before.

I just discovered that my Yesteryear reissue 45 appears to have this video
version. I haven’t listened too carefully so it might not be the same mix
exactly but i hear the alternate keyboard solo.]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2023 20:02:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62864&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62864 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62475&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62475 Author: mjb50
Subject: 1813
Posted: 24 January 2023 at 7:30pm

(Related to the previous discussion, going all the way back to the beginning)

I believe some masterings of this run longer not because they are slower, per se (although they are slightly slow compared to the 45), but rather mainly just because they have a several seconds more music before the fade ends.

As often happens, the song was recorded without a "proper" big-finish ending, the intention being to just fade it out and imply that the party just keeps on going...and before any mistakes or underwhelming endings are heard. And as often happens, the exact point where the music starts fading and where it disappears to silence varies from mastering to mastering.

During the fade, from about 3:38, the vocal refrain goes like this:

[chorus:] Feel the beat of the rhythm of the night
[lead:] Dance until the morning light
[chorus:] Forget about the worries on your mind
[lead:] You can leave them all behind
[chorus:] Feel the beat of the rhythm of the night
[lead, overlapping "night":] Oh-oo-woh*, oh-oo-woh, oh-oo-woh**-oo-whoa
[chorus:] Forget*** about the worries on your mind
[lead, overlapping "worries":] Aaah, can't you feel it?****

* Rhythm of the Night album on CD ends here
** The Last Dragon soundtrack LP ends here
*** single ends here
**** Billboard & Like, Omigod! CDs end here

In the middle of that final "Ah, can't you feel it?" ad-lib, the rest of the music suddenly stops with a braking tape-reel sound (kinda like a synthesizer going "pew!") and the ad-lib finishes solo with a little bit of echo. This is especially audible on the Like, Omigod CD, although verifying any of this stuff does require really cranking the volume up during the last seconds of the fadeout.

As for speed variations, based on very small number of rips I've checked, the 45 and the soundtrack LP for The Last Dragon have the right speed; the music is perfectly in tune. The very small number of CDs I checked were a touch slow, like Ron reported, about 0.6% to 0.9%.

But this is even true of the original album on CD, which despite running a little over 3:48, is actually a slower mastering than the ones with the ~3:52 durations. So I am not sure whether it really should be characterized in the database the way it is now, with the 3:51+ versions all being marked "slower than the 45 or LP". I mean, yes, they are slower, but so are at least some of the ones that have the ~3:47 duration. The fadeout point is what is accounting for the main difference.]]> Tue, 24 Jan 2023 19:30:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=62475&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#62475 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=60740&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#60740 Author: mjb50
Subject: 1813
Posted: 27 April 2022 at 1:22am

(Unrelated to the previous discussion)

The database says the 5:43 version on The Ultimate Collection (Motown 314530561) is the ”Last Dragon” soundtrack LP version. That's incorrect; the 5:43 version is the Dance Mix (not to be confused with the 6:41 Long Version).

The Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon soundtrack LP has the standard single/album version, I think with a slightly longer fade.

Edited by mjb50]]> Wed, 27 Apr 2022 01:22:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=60740&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#60740 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50916&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50916 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1813
Posted: 03 January 2019 at 10:27pm

In fact, the video is not only a different mix, but it's a different vocal take in some places. The keyboard solo in the middle is totally different, too. This is the first time I've ever seen the music video, and I've never heard this alternate take before.]]> Thu, 03 Jan 2019 22:27:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50916&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50916 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50915&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50915 Author: aaronk
Subject: 1813
Posted: 03 January 2019 at 10:24pm

I don't think anything was edited for content for the music video. The video is obviously a completely different mix, and it seems like most or all of the "party noise" in the background is different between the two mixes.]]> Thu, 03 Jan 2019 22:24:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50915&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50915 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50914&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50914 Author: NightAire
Subject: 1813
Posted: 03 January 2019 at 9:55pm

I hear "my God" or "oh my God"... which might also have been edited in the era of this song and its target demo.

YMMV]]> Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:55:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50914&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50914 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50907&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50907 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1813
Posted: 02 January 2019 at 3:57pm

Great ears, everybody!

I found videos on YouTube of someone playing the 45 and the Rhythm Of The Night LP (last song on side 2). Both of these include the alleged naughty words behind the word "romance" around 1:30. Same for all the extended versions on vinyl 12 inch singles. Haven't been able to find someone playing the soundtrack to "The Last Dragon" yet.

All the versions I have on CD also include the alleged naughty words behind the word "romance" around 1:30.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:57:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50907&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50907 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50906&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50906 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 1813
Posted: 02 January 2019 at 3:35pm

I would think so EdisonLite. Remember, I could pick out the difference almost immediately, so this was a version I've never ever heard.

Wow! Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I mentioned it in the other thread too. you learn something every day :)

Happy New Year!
]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:35:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50906&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50906 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50904&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50904 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 1813
Posted: 02 January 2019 at 3:29pm

Yeah, I hear the differences in the mixes. What's being said is under the lead vocal "romance" between the 2 syllables. The swear word could be what's being said, but I'm not sure. The fact that it was removed from this later version would suggest the label concluded that the background guy was swearing.

So is this what would be considered the "video mix" - and is it different from the single and album mix - and not available on any CD?]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:29:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1813&PID=50904&title=debarge-rhythm-of-the-night#50904