https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 02:14:53 +0000 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 08:01:51 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=185 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45719&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45719 Author: aaronk
Subject: 185
Posted: 08 June 2016 at 8:01am

Bill, I think you are correct that no official edit was issued in 1988. In my
travels since I first posted, I have never come across a 1988 promo that
has anything except the LP version. I'm sure it must've been a
homemade edit by TM to give their stations a shorter version that still
retains some of the rap. ]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 08:01:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45719&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45719 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45717&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45717 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 185
Posted: 08 June 2016 at 6:51am

WPLJ/New York used to run a "No rap. No hard stuff. No sleepy elevator music." liner, but I think that was after this 1988 time frame.

The 1987-1989 fad was to revive earlier hits or non-hits, like "Into The Night", "Where Are You Now", "When I'm With You", "Valerie", "Unchained Melody", "Send Me An Angel" (as a
rerecording), "I Melt With You" (also as a rerecording), and even "The Fanatic".]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 06:51:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45717&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45717 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45714&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45714 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 185
Posted: 08 June 2016 at 4:29am

I don't recall an edit in 1988 either. It was a radio "secret weapon" song that became not so secret as
everybody grabbed the Labour of Love CD and started playing the full version. I recall buying the CD and
playing it before A&M supplied an actual 45. I also believe A&M sent radio the entire CD out in a hurry.
There may have been some home made edits but at the time, playing the entire thing was what made it a hit
in my opinion. My guess is that TM Century supplied that edit later, most likely to allow play at AC radio
as an oldie. AC radio probably didn't want so much "rap" and the "whole heap a zing" line or whatever
that phrase is..But just because I don't recall it doesn't mean that there wasn't an edit sent, I
just don't remember one.

Edited by Bill Cahill]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 04:29:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45714&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45714 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45711&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45711 Author: Plastic Steel
Subject: 185
Posted: 07 June 2016 at 6:45pm

Just reiterating in this thread Aaron's reminder that the 3:01 version from 1983 (peaked at #34 BB in spring '84 in the US) is not simply an early fade of the LP version (aka the 1988 single version) (aka the most surprising remake of a Neil Diamond song until someone does a gangsta rap cover of "I Am...I Said").]]> Tue, 07 Jun 2016 18:45:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=45711&title=ub40-red-red-wine#45711 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=16899&title=ub40-red-red-wine#16899 Author: jimct
Subject: 185
Posted: 10 June 2008 at 9:19am

aaronk wrote: Red Red Wine / UB40 Was the 4:07 edit (found on TM Century's Gold Disc library) from a DJ 45, or is this just an edit that TM made? I know the 3:01 edit was the one issued in 1983, but is it possible they re-edited the song for release to radio stations in 1988?

Sorry guys, never noticed this post until Abagon's great new actual timing info. I have all of the stock & promo 45's for this song, for both of its 80's 45 releases, in addition to a promo CD single for the 1988 longer issue. No 4:07 edit exists, to my knowledge, and I'm just about positive that the 4:07 edit was simply a TM "custom edit".
]]> Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:19:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=16899&title=ub40-red-red-wine#16899 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=16895&title=ub40-red-red-wine#16895 Author: abagon
Subject: 185
Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:50am

(1984)
The actual 45 running time is (3:00), the listed time is "3:01"on the record label.(A&M AM-2600)

(1988)
The actual 45 running time is (5:16), the listed time is "5:21"on the record label.(A&M AM-1244)
]]> Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:50:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=16895&title=ub40-red-red-wine#16895 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=816&title=ub40-red-red-wine#816 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 185
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 9:04am

I'll keep an eye out for a promo single, Aaron, and will let you and everyone else know if I find one.]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:04:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=816&title=ub40-red-red-wine#816 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=815&title=ub40-red-red-wine#815 Author: aaronk
Subject: 185
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 9:00am

Todd, yes, it edits part of the rap, but it's not an early fade. If you're comparing the 4:07 edit to the LP version, the parts edited out are from 2:44 to 3:06 and 4:10 to 4:58.]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:00:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=815&title=ub40-red-red-wine#815 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=812&title=ub40-red-red-wine#812 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 185
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:11am

Actually, I might be familiar with the 4:07 edit, Aaron. I'm trying to recall from memory... Does this version edit out part of the "red red wine you make me feel so fine" rap and fade out early? ]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:11:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=812&title=ub40-red-red-wine#812 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=802&title=ub40-red-red-wine#802 Author: aaronk
Subject: 185
Posted: 11 April 2005 at 10:54am

Red Red Wine / UB40 Was the 4:07 edit (found on TM Century's Gold Disc library) from a DJ 45, or is this just an edit that TM made? I know the 3:01 edit was the one issued in 1983, but is it possible they re-edited the song for release to radio stations in 1988?]]> Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:54:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185&PID=802&title=ub40-red-red-wine#802