Top 40 Music on CD Forum : Carpenters-"Close To You" https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 13 Apr 2026 22:45:50 +0000 Mon, 05 May 2025 10:38:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1860 <![CDATA[Top 40 Music on CD Forum]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : Yeah, I too have that site bookmarked,...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66586&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66586 Author: davidclark
Subject: 1860
Posted: 05 May 2025 at 10:38am

Yeah, I too have that site bookmarked, and used it to determine when and where the multitude of (Richard) Carpenter remixes were issued.

It's not 100% accurate, however, as it does list all those CDs with the 45, but not!]]> Mon, 05 May 2025 10:38:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66586&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66586 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : crapfromthepast wrote:In digging...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66584&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66584 Author: Hykker
Subject: 1860
Posted: 05 May 2025 at 6:15am

Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

In digging around on YouTube, it seemed that first pressings of the LP (A&M tan label) ran out to the full 4:33-ish length, while rereleases (A&M silver label) faded early to the 3:51-ish length. I never owned the vinyl myself, and can’t confirm 100%.


Can't speak for the silver label LP, but I have the tan label one, and it's the full 4:33 version.]]> Mon, 05 May 2025 06:15:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66584&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66584 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : It is indeed a terrific resource,...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66580&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66580 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1860
Posted: 04 May 2025 at 4:16pm

It is indeed a terrific resource, and is what I used to determine that the remix was done in 1991 and what to listen for.

But we uncover surprises here, like discovering that the 3:41 versions are just the 45 fade at LP speed, and the Complete Singles set is incorrect for this track.]]> Sun, 04 May 2025 16:16:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66580&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66580 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : This site is a great resource...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66578&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66578 Author: sheardbeard
Subject: 1860
Posted: 04 May 2025 at 2:36pm

This site is a great resource for finding all Carpenters songs and where all their various versions and mixes can be found: https://carpenters.amcorner.com/albums-and-songs/song-listing-alphabetical

According to that site, about 99% of their commercial US 45 mixes/lengths are included in the PBS-exclusive CD collection from 2015: "Carpenters - The Complete Singles".  Here is the link to that collection: https://carpenters.amcorner.com/album/carpenters-the-complete-singles
]]> Sun, 04 May 2025 14:36:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66578&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66578 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : In digging around on YouTube,...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66567&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66567 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1860
Posted: 04 May 2025 at 6:34am

In digging around on YouTube, it seemed that first pressings of the LP (A&M tan label) ran out to the full 4:33-ish length, while rereleases (A&M silver label) faded early to the 3:51-ish length. I never owned the vinyl myself, and can’t confirm 100%.

They’re the same performance, just faded to different points. In the full 4:33 performance, you can hear someone tapping (drummer Hal Blaine?) in the silent portion to start the reprise.

The last ten seconds of the 3:51 version is just low-volume noodling, so the difference between the 3:41-ish US 45 lengths (before speeding up) and the 3:51-ish LP/UK 45 versions is just the low-volume noodling.

Is that consistent with what you found?]]> Sun, 04 May 2025 06:34:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66567&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66567 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : Ron,I concur with *most* of the...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66566&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66566 Author: davidclark
Subject: 1860
Posted: 04 May 2025 at 5:20am

Ron,

I concur with *most* of the above. I found a UK 45 playing on YT, and it does include the first bit of the coda, up to when the drums kick in (3:51).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_jK3Dsoz4s

I had the vinyl LP, and I don't recall that bit being on it. I found an LP playing on YT - can't verify from what country, but it fades at the same point as the 45 before the coda begins (but of course, is slower - 3:41).

Perhaps this last bit needs confirming.

Wow! SO much effort into ONE song, from 55 years ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsmVNqikRU]]> Sun, 04 May 2025 05:20:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66566&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66566 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : Bob Moke&#039;s dub of the mono...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66564&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66564 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1860
Posted: 03 May 2025 at 4:43pm

Bob Moke's dub of the mono promo 45 runs 1.6% faster than Classics Vol. 2.
I believe we've found our value, which I will announce using the size feature in our forum's formatting: 1.6%

Yup.

So that leaves the following versions:
  • "original LP version with reprise" - runs 4:33
  • "reissue LP version without reprise and UK 45 version" - is original LP version faded to about 3:51
  • "US 45 fade but at LP speed" - is original LP version faded to about 3:41, found on a few early Carpenters collections like Classics Vol. 2 (1987), never existed on vinyl
  • "US 45 fade at US 45 speed" - runs about 3:37; doesn't seems to exist on CD or in the digital world but easily reproduced by speeding up Classics Vol. 2 by 1.6%, found only on the US 45
  • "mono promo 45 version" - runs about 3:37; probably a dedicated mix (rather than a fold-down); runs at 45 speed, which is 1.6% faster than the LP
  • "non-hit 1991 remix" - runs about 3:41, is roughly the LP speed, overall has heavier bass and kick drum plus added reverb, has 1:13 piano flourish in only one channel (all others versions are in both channels)


Edited by crapfromthepast - 03 May 2025 at 8:39pm]]> Sat, 03 May 2025 16:43:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66564&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66564 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : crapfromthepast wrote:I got...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66562&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66562 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 1860
Posted: 03 May 2025 at 1:23pm

Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

I got it to download. The video David found (link is two posts above) runs 1.6% faster than Classics Vol. 2.


Also of note, David's video from Scratchy45s runs the same speed, within a fraction of a second, as Bob Moke's dub of the mono promo 45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk-r-D8S9q8

So the actual 45 runtime appears to be just barely 3:37. Between 3:36.8 and 3:37.

Edited by Brian W. - 03 May 2025 at 1:24pm]]> Sat, 03 May 2025 13:23:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66562&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66562 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : I got it to download. The video...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66559&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66559 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1860
Posted: 03 May 2025 at 11:35am

I got it to download. The video David found (link is two posts above) runs 1.6% faster than Classics Vol. 2.

Edited by crapfromthepast - 03 May 2025 at 11:35am]]> Sat, 03 May 2025 11:35:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66559&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66559 <![CDATA[Carpenters-"Close To You" : I discovered the same thing that...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66544&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66544 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1860
Posted: 01 May 2025 at 8:55pm

I discovered the same thing that Dave did: the speed of the particular dub I found may not be quite right.

I found a dub from "Mr. M" that runs about 1.2% or 1.3% faster than the LP version. A far cry from the 3% that I initially found from the earlier YouTube dub.

I had trouble getting David's highlighted video to download, so I can't get a decent number for you.

All of the 45 dubs seem to have the same fade points as Classics Vol. 2, which is good. We just need to find the actual speed of the 45.]]> Thu, 01 May 2025 20:55:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1860&PID=66544&title=carpentersclose-to-you#66544