https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 16:19:43 +0000 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:04:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=230 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=18005&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#18005 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 230
Posted: 05 August 2008 at 8:04pm

Hykker wrote: I notice that on both the "Bad For Good" and the "Cleveland Rocks" CDs the listed times are 5:24 & 5:18 respectively. Is the acapella reprise missing on those CDs?

No, it's there on both CDs, and the printed time is wrong on both.]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:04:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=18005&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#18005 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17999&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17999 Author: Hykker
Subject: 230
Posted: 05 August 2008 at 6:38pm


I recall hearing a custom version of R&RDCT on a Cleveland Top 40 station (WGCL maybe?) when the song was current. The custom part was the acapella reprise where the stations calls/slogan were substituted in the chorus.]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:38:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17999&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17999 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17997&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17997 Author: Hykker
Subject: 230
Posted: 05 August 2008 at 6:22pm

I notice that on both the "Bad For Good" and the "Cleveland Rocks" CDs the listed times are 5:24 & 5:18 respectively. Is the acapella reprise missing on those CDs?]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:22:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17997&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17997 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17957&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17957 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 230
Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:30pm

Ron, great work!! A batch of popcorn would have been the perfect accompaniment for such a thorough and enlightening picture show. Next time I'll come prepared. :)]]> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:30:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17957&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17957 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17956&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17956 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 230
Posted: 04 August 2008 at 4:15pm

That compilation has a bit of Cleveland and Pittsburgh flavored rock there with Eric Carmen's Euclid Beach Band ("I Need You" was an awesome ballad from them) and the Iron City Houserockers from the 'Burgh.

Of course, "Cleveland Rocks" was the theme song to the Drew Carey show early on...]]> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:15:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17956&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17956 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17955&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17955 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 230
Posted: 04 August 2008 at 3:15pm

I have the sheet music for "R&R Dreams Come Through"! Too bad I can't do scanning! :)
]]> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:15:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17955&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17955 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17954&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17954 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 230
Posted: 04 August 2008 at 2:48pm

Pictures!

The commercial 45 - note that the two tracks are separated by a band:



The back credits of the original LP:



The sleeve front/back of the little 7" that came with the original LP:




The label front/back on the little 7" that came with the original LP - note that there is no band separating the tracks on "Rock & Roll ...":




I have a 12" promo single for this song, which has a nice edit that shortens the sax solo, but I can't find it in the basement. It omits the choral reprise, and fades where the other version fades.

The back cover of the CD - note that the song is now considered part of the album:



The CD itself, with an incorrect listing for the track time (it runs in the neighborhood of 6:27):



A CD compilation that includes the track, also with an incorrect track listing (it runs 6:26 with outro silence):



If I had sheet music, I'd scan that in, too...

For what it's worth, I think the song should be considered part of the album, just like the songs on the bonus 45 from "Songs In The Key Of Life". If you bought the album "Bad For Good" at any point in its shelf life, in any configuration, you always got the song "Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through". ]]> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:48:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17954&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17954 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17845&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17845 Author: Hykker
Subject: 230
Posted: 29 July 2008 at 5:40am

Todd Ireland wrote: Thanks for the clarification, abagon. I don't understand why the record company elected to press a slightly different 45 for inclusion with the Bad for Good LP release, instead of just using the commercial 45!

Actually, the "bonus record" included with the album was an EP, not a 45. Played at 33 (IIRC) and had a small hole. I think I have a promo version of it at home, never seen a stock copy of it. ]]> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:40:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17845&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17845 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17843&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17843 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 230
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 8:59pm

Thanks for the clarification, abagon. I don't understand why the record company elected to press a slightly different 45 for inclusion with the Bad for Good LP release, instead of just using the commercial 45! Obviously, these record execs never had the foresight to see how complicated they were going to make everything years later for Pat's database! :-)]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:59:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17843&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17843 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17809&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17809 Author: abagon
Subject: 230
Posted: 27 July 2008 at 11:19pm

Todd: I apologize for an error.

The sound volume of the 45 is low, so I turned the volume up. Then, I realized the reflection of the echo at the end of "CHORAL REPRISE ."
Therefore, the actual running time is: 5:23 and :59, the total is 6:23.

I verified the commercial 45 of "Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through" and the US PROMO bonus 7 inch (33 rpm) of it.

The commercial 45: (6:23)
"Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through" (5:23.964) / "Silence" (:00.476) / "CHORAL REPRISE " (:59.267)

The bonus PROMO LP 7 inch (33 rpm): (6:25)
"Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through" (5:25.421) / "Silence" (:01.689) / "CHORAL REPRISE " (:58.607)

As the difference of "Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through", the 45 is faded out earlier than the bonus 33.
As the difference of "CHORAL REPRISE " the echo reflection of the 45 is longer than the bonus 33.
The speed between the 45 and the 33 are about the same. (the 45 speed is very slight faster than the 33.)

Edited by abagon]]> Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:19:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=230&PID=17809&title=jim-steinman-rock-n-roll-dreams#17809