https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 12:39:45 +0000 Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:37:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2454 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=52703&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#52703 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2454
Posted: 11 September 2019 at 8:37pm

Just posting my info in response to a request.

The Duke album was reissued on CD in 1994 with the original mix but with an added bass-heavy EQ, and was remixed from the multi-tracks by Nick Davis in a 2007 CD reissue. I'm not fond of those, from the little snippets I've heard. I have the original Atlantic '80s-era CD of Duke, which sounds pretty muffled, but I think that's as good as it gets for this album.

The 45 version seems like an edit of the LP version, not a remix.

My notes say the to create the 45 edit, remove 0.00.0-0.01.9 and 0.09.8-0.14.6 of LP version from Duke, then add a 39-beat fade at 3.06.7.

These seem consistent with Plastic Steel's instructions from a few years back.]]> Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:37:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=52703&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#52703 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=45139&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#45139 Author: Plastic Steel
Subject: 2454
Posted: 02 March 2016 at 9:26pm

Trying to determine if the 45 is a different mix. If it is, it's subtle. The LP version is a little muddy, and the 45 seems a bit brighter, but it could be an EQ issue (note that I'm comparing it to the original Duke album from 1980 and not the 2007 remasters). I'd say their "Man On The Corner," which is also a subtle single mix, is a more noticeable remix than this one could be.

Nevertheless, for those looking to create the single edit from the LP version:

Remove the first 2 seconds (the hi-hat) and begin right when the guitar first comes in.

Keep the next 4 measures (16 beats). The bass will start coming in during the fourth measure (around beat #13 or so).

Remove a segment starting on the 17th beat (the beginning of the 5th measure) at the (LP's :09.7 / 45's :07.8 ) mark to when the keyboard chord comes in at the (LP's :15.2 / 45's :07.8) mark. The keyboards come in right after Phil Collins' 4-count.

There are no more edits. Start your fade at around 3:07 (during Phil's falsetto "I can see another face"). My copy fades out to zero at 3:27.

Edited by Plastic Steel]]> Wed, 02 Mar 2016 21:26:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=45139&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#45139 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29490&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29490 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2454
Posted: 21 March 2011 at 10:50am

I ended up picking up a promo 45 and dubbing that. Run time is 3:27.]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:50:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29490&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29490 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29489&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29489 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 2454
Posted: 21 March 2011 at 9:15am

Bump - just wondered if there really was a radio edit as described above.
]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:15:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29489&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29489 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29323&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29323 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 2454
Posted: 25 February 2011 at 4:52pm

eriejwg wrote: Thanks, Doug, actually I had found this thread in a search for Genesis, when I asked about "Paperlate." Wondering about "Turn It On Again", even though this didn't crack the Top 40 in 1980, a promo 45 label scan says 3:27. The digital versions run 3:51. Mix difference? Edit? Early fade? Live vs. studio? Ok, enough I know, haha.

Didn't the radio edit start at the keyboard downbeat (right after Phil's count)? And I think the instrumental section between the last refrain, and the closing chorus was reduced from eight to four measures. These are guesses so I can't be sure.
]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:52:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=29323&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#29323 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=16338&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#16338 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2454
Posted: 17 May 2008 at 5:03pm

Thanks, Doug, actually I had found this thread in a search for Genesis, when I asked about "Paperlate."

Wondering about "Turn It On Again", even though this didn't crack the Top 40 in 1980, a promo 45 label scan says 3:27. The digital versions run 3:51.

Mix difference? Edit? Early fade? Live vs. studio?

Ok, enough I know, haha.]]> Sat, 17 May 2008 17:03:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=16338&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#16338 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=16337&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#16337 Author: sriv94
Subject: 2454
Posted: 17 May 2008 at 4:55pm

Jump bumping this for John's reference--we were discussing the tune in an E-mail exchange.]]> Sat, 17 May 2008 16:55:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=16337&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#16337 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11424&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11424 Author: sriv94
Subject: 2454
Posted: 11 September 2007 at 7:03am

There was, John, but the version on the CD was the studio version, just mixed very differently.]]> Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:03:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11424&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11424 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11422&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11422 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 2454
Posted: 10 September 2007 at 11:01pm

Doug:

Wasn't there both a studio and a live recording for this song?]]> Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:01:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11422&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11422 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11421&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11421 Author: sriv94
Subject: 2454
Posted: 10 September 2007 at 8:28pm

Are the 45 and LP versions different for this track? I have a CD called Pop Dreams And Rock Tracks - The Earthquake Album in which the mix of "Turn It On Again" is quite different (seems real hot to me--Phil Collins' overlapping vocals on the "turn it on, turn it on, turn it on again" close seem much more in front).

Is that a case of just being mixed differently?]]> Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:28:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2454&PID=11421&title=turn-it-on-again-genesis#11421