https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 12:43:40 +0000 Wed, 27 May 2015 08:56:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2620 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=43680&title=the-who-who-are-you#43680 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2620
Posted: 27 May 2015 at 8:56am

The Internet tells me that "Who Are You" was remixed
in 1996, so I'd bet that everything pre-1996 was the
original mix.

So my guess is that the original mixes had the loud
stand-alone guitar note at 2:28 in the right channel.
Still can't confirm with vinyl, though.

I found a website that claims that the original LP mix
ran 6:22, the 1996 remix of the LP version ran 6:16,
and there's a "lost verse" mix running 6:18 that
includes lyrics in the second verse which were
different from the released version. What a mess.]]> Wed, 27 May 2015 08:56:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=43680&title=the-who-who-are-you#43680 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=43679&title=the-who-who-are-you#43679 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 2620
Posted: 26 May 2015 at 8:18pm

I'm a little confused about the two mixes floating
around.

The loud stand-alone guitar note at 2:28 is in both
channels for 20th Century Masters The Millennium
Collection (1999; 6:16 LP version) and My
Generation The Very Best Of (1996; 4:58 UK 45
version).

The same note is in the right channel for Who's
Better Who's Best (1988; 5:02 UK 45 version) and
Aaron's (undoubtedly accurate) recreation of the 6:06
long promo version).

Can anyone confirm what the original vinyl mixes had?
I know The Who had some remixes floating around in
their catalog, but I don't know their stuff nearly
well enough to discern the original mix from a modern
remix.]]> Tue, 26 May 2015 20:18:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=43679&title=the-who-who-are-you#43679 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15850&title=the-who-who-are-you#15850 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2620
Posted: 02 May 2008 at 12:57am

Jim & Doug, I think you're onto something here!]]> Fri, 02 May 2008 00:57:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15850&title=the-who-who-are-you#15850 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15840&title=the-who-who-are-you#15840 Author: sriv94
Subject: 2620
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 2:55pm

Would that (5:03) version possibly be the "edit of the LP version" noted in the database for these CDs:

(S) (5:02) MCA 1496 Greatest Hits
(S) (5:02) MCA 8031 Who's Better, Who's Best
(S) (4:58) MCA 11020 Thirty Years Of Maximum R&B
(S) (4:58) MCA 11462 My Generation - Very Best Of
(S) (5:03) Geffen B0001836 Then And Now
]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 14:55:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15840&title=the-who-who-are-you#15840 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15832&title=the-who-who-are-you#15832 Author: jimct
Subject: 2620
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:07pm

My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:22), but an actual time of (3:26). In 1978, our MCA record rep also provided us with a Polydor import stock 45 for "Who Are You" (which I still have). It did include the 2 instances of the "f" word, and my then-bosses at the radio station (we were still on AM in 1978) chose to "spike in" this version at night, despite the language, desiring to have us sound "edgier" and "more hip", and gambling that the FCC and/or listener complaints wouldn't come in - and neither did. This UK 45 version has no listed time, but an actual time of (5:03). ]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:07:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=15832&title=the-who-who-are-you#15832 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=13536&title=the-who-who-are-you#13536 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2620
Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:44pm

I was just able to hear the (6:11) promo edit, and the actual run time is (6:06). For the second chorus, they dubbed in part of the first chorus to get rid of the "f" bomb. For its appearance later in the song, they just cut out about 12 seconds rather than replacing it with an earlier chorus.

Another funny thing I had never noticed before is that there are two different mixes of the long, uncensored version. When I first tried to re-create the edit, I was using the remastered edition of Who Are You, but the mix isn't quite the same. I then tried using the version on The Ultimate Collection, and it worked perfectly.

If you compare those two versions, you'll hear that the loud guitar note at (2:28) is off to the right on one mix but centered on the other one. Another way I could tell was that the last "you" that Roger sings is faded out from the mix slightly earlier on the Who Are You CD. The last note is also faded earlier on that CD, which is why it only runs (6:16). There were a couple other very subtle mix differences, too. The bottom line is that you'll need the (6:20) version to have the correct LP version.

While I'm on the subject, do the versions of "Behind Blue Eyes" from the remastered Who's Next and Ultimate Collection CDs differ, or is it just that the latter is a bit more hissy? (I'm not referring to the alternate take on Who's Next.)]]> Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:44:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=13536&title=the-who-who-are-you#13536 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12295&title=the-who-who-are-you#12295 Author: BillCahill
Subject: 2620
Posted: 31 October 2007 at 4:43am

The original promo album that was sent to radio stations also had the 6:11 edit which edited around the F words. It's not obvious on the label except that it looks like someone pasted over the 6:11 time on top of the original time. When those promo copies wore out stations just started playing the uncensored version.

While radio stations played this song uncensored for years, after the Janet Jackson incident most major radio groups now play some kind of edit before 10pm. (you can play it uncensored 10pm-6am) As to not be accused of censorship, CC stations have available the exact MCA edit. CBS made their own. Others are out there.

]]> Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:43:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12295&title=the-who-who-are-you#12295 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12245&title=the-who-who-are-you#12245 Author: jimct
Subject: 2620
Posted: 28 October 2007 at 7:39am

Yes it is, Aaron.]]> Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:39:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12245&title=the-who-who-are-you#12245 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12240&title=the-who-who-are-you#12240 Author: aaronk
Subject: 2620
Posted: 27 October 2007 at 9:43pm

Thanks for the info, guys! For the long promo, is this a case where the band re-sang some of the lyrics, or did MCA do some clever editing to remove the offensive lines? (In the LP version, the "f" word appears at 2:14 and 5:40; in the 45 version, the "h" word appears at 1:56, and the line was re-sung for this version.)

Jim, is your short promo version that same as the commercial 45, containing the word "hell?"]]> Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:43:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12240&title=the-who-who-are-you#12240 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12232&title=the-who-who-are-you#12232 Author: jimct
Subject: 2620
Posted: 27 October 2007 at 8:28am

Andy, I do have that (6:11) promo 45 version, and I was gonna check it later on today. But your above notations are EXACTLY the same as what I recall being on that long promo 45, when we reviewed it at the station back in 1978. So I'll just go ahead and consider Aaron's original question "already answered!" ]]> Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:28:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2620&PID=12232&title=the-who-who-are-you#12232