https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 09:49:37 +0000 Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:03:40 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2748 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=64660&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#64660 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 2748
Posted: 16 April 2024 at 5:03pm

Bumping this back up to see if anyone has come across the
Full Length Version mentioned above that runs 4:08. I've
checked on YouTube but couldn't find it. ]]> Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:03:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=64660&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#64660 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=61109&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#61109 Author: kaqueno
Subject: 2748
Posted: 20 June 2022 at 11:02am

I just want to add to mike's post, and as Santi Paradoa
commented in 2013, that the deluxe box set released by
Cherry Pop of the album
"All That Jazz", has the version included:

- Don't Tell Me Lies(LP) 3:42
- Don't Tell Me Lies (1986 UK 7" Version) 3:42
- Don't Tell Me Lies (1989 US 7" Version) 3:41
- Don't Tell Me Lies (Dance Mix) 6:49
- Don't Tell Me Lies (Extended Version)     5:40

https://www.discogs.com/release/4370965-Breathe-All-That-
Jaz z


By the way, does anyone have the Full Length Version
(4:08): Exclusive to the 1989 US 12", remix credited to
Tom Lord-Alge?, I'd like to hear it and compare it with
the rest of the versions, thanks for advance.

Cheers

Edited by kaqueno]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2022 11:02:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=61109&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#61109 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=61107&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#61107 Author: mjb50
Subject: 2748
Posted: 20 June 2022 at 9:27am

These are the versions I was able to track down:

• original UK single version (3:39, possibly listed as 3:44): The January 1986 UK 7" release with no mix title given, and 1985 copyrights, suggesting it may have been planned for late '85 release but was delayed, perhaps because the video wasn't finished until December 20th.

• US single version a.k.a. Final 7" (3:41, often printed as 3:44): This is the hit version. It is a "remix" is credited to Tom Lord-Alge. Apparently it was planned for a 1988 release in the US & CA (based on the catalog numbers and promo CD copyrights), but was delayed to January 3, 1989 (per a full-page ad in the Dec. 17, 1988 issue of Billboard), when it was issued with confusing 1987 copyrights. Released in the UK & elsewhere in March 1989 as the 7" Version [on 12"], variously with or without the Tom Lord-Alge credit.

I'm not convinced the hit version is really a remix, but just a remaster. As compared to the 1986 version, it just has a slight change in EQ, a left/right channel swap, and a 1-second longer, louder fade-in. Everything else about it is identical to the original single.

• UK CD single version (3:38): Released in 1989 on UK CD single, this is not the same mix as the so-called 7" Version released on the corresponding 12". I don't know which of the two versions was on the actual UK 1989 7".

• Extended Version (5:38): Debuted on the January 1986 UK 12" release. Reissued in 1989 as 12" Mix in the US (with I think an erroneous Tom Lord-Alge remix credit), and as Extended Version (duration "5:40") elsewhere.

• Full Length Version (4:08): Exclusive to the 1989 US 12", remix credited to Tom Lord-Alge. I have not yet heard this one.

The following are remixes by John Morales:

• Dance Mix (6:47): On the 2nd record in the 1986 limited UK 12" double-pack.

• 12" Dub Mix (4:59): On the 2nd record in the 1986 limited UK 12" double-pack. The labels have the wrong duration (3:44) and no remix credit.

• album version (3:42): On all releases of the 1987 All That Jazz album, except the rare 1st edition UK LP, which doesn't have the song at all.

The album version is based on the single version but has elements of the Dance Mix in it. The most noticeable difference to me isn't the reverb, but rather the added bongos throughout the song. Also, after the drums start up at 10 seconds in, there's no droning guitar chord like there is on the singles. And as mentioned, no "so" lyric as the chorus starts at 1:02.


Edited by mjb50 - 16 November 2025 at 2:34am]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2022 09:27:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=61107&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#61107 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=52445&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#52445 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 2748
Posted: 22 August 2019 at 10:44am

Another way you can tell the difference
between the Album and Single Versions is
that on the Album Version, the first
chorus begins with lead singer David
Glasper singing, "Don't Tell Me Lies". On
the Single Version, the first chorus
begins with him singing, "SO Don't Tell Me
Lies". (Actually, I don't know if calling
it a chorus is really accurate, since he
only sings the title a few times in
between the verses).]]> Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:44:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=52445&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#52445 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=37059&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#37059 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 2748
Posted: 20 March 2013 at 6:31pm

The correct US 7" remix appears on the recent 2013 double
disc deluxe edition of the All That Jazz album on the
Cherry Pop label (a division of Cherry Red Records, UK).
This set has a total of five different versions of this
song (LP version, Dance Mix, Extended version and UK 7"
version). Sound is very good on the set.

As far how to identify the correct remix, here is what
Mark tells me on that subject:

"The main difference in the remix from the LP version is
the 45 remix has much more reverb on most of the
mix....like the loud synth riff that plays as soon as the
drums start - on the LP it sounds like a small room, but
the 45 sounds like a big auditorium."

I hope Mark doesn't mind me quoting him on this one.

Edited by Santi Paradoa]]> Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:31:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=37059&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#37059 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=30139&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#30139 Author: Ringmaster_D
Subject: 2748
Posted: 11 May 2011 at 4:44pm

I've seen this song on a couple of imports. What's the best way to distinguish the remix from the LP version?]]> Wed, 11 May 2011 16:44:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=30139&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#30139 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18917&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18917 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 2748
Posted: 27 September 2008 at 10:54pm

I don't know how I missed Jim's post, but oh, well, wow you have double confirmation of the run time.]]> Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:54:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18917&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18917 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18912&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18912 Author: bwolfe
Subject: 2748
Posted: 27 September 2008 at 6:52pm

Funny, I found that same CD promo for "Don't Tell Me Lies" at work just about a week ago.
We have a closet full of "lost" stuff.
A&M was great, it serviced radio with CD pro's and quality vinyl promo 45's.]]> Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:52:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18912&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18912 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18908&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18908 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 2748
Posted: 27 September 2008 at 1:39pm

I have the promo CD single. It does say "Final 7"" and runs an actual 3:40, though it's labeled 3:41. It comes in a slimline jewel case and says "Remixed by Tom Lord-Alge" on the insert. The insert has the same picture as on Ed's commercial single, except it's not color, it's a pale yellow/sepia type of coloring. It's A&M CD 17664.

Edited by Brian W.]]> Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:39:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18908&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18908 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2748&PID=18904&title=breathe-dont-tell-me-lies#18904 Author: edtop40
Subject: 2748
Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:56am

my commercial 45 issued as a&m 1267 states on the label (final 7") with a listed running time of 3:44 but it actually runs 3:40 and is identical the the version on jim's and mine promo cd single.....this 45 label info should be added to the db............





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