https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 11:00:54 +0000 Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:24:28 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=280 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57449&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57449 Author: TimNeely
Subject: 280
Posted: 12 February 2021 at 5:24pm

To add another data point, I checked my
own 45, which I bought either shortly
before or shortly after it entered the top
20 on Billboard. The trail-off on
mine is AS1-9434-SA-1, followed by the
word STERLING stamped, and then followed
by the crossed-out number AS1-9334-SA-
RCA1. My copy is styrene, pressed at RCA
Indianapolis. It plays the original 45
remix with the "heartbeat."]]> Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:24:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57449&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57449 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57445&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57445 Author: aaronk
Subject: 280
Posted: 11 February 2021 at 8:48am

It's anyone's guess, Andy, but I think if the intent was to send a "new version" to programmers, it would've been called out as such on the record label. In this case, the change was subtle and not noted at all, other than the tiny "RE" in the matrix.]]> Thu, 11 Feb 2021 08:48:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57445&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57445 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57440&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57440 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 6:08pm

Yes, Aaron, I forgot that the labels would sometimes
reservice a hot record to replace cue-burnt copies! I
figured by then just about all stations would cart up
the tracks, but you're right, I'm sure a measure of
stations (especially in smaller markets) played vinyl
directly.

Andy]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:08:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57440&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57440 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57429&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57429 Author: aaronk
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 11:03am

Again, I highly doubt programmers were clamoring for a few extra seconds of audio. As Gordon already pointed out, the new ending doesn't really extend the song at all. The difference in length is 4:30 vs. 4:32.

I think the real reason both versions were pressed on promos is because radio needed new copies when the "old" ones were wearing out. This happened regularly, as I understand it, because some stations played vinyl directly and not carts. 45s got cue burnt and worn. By the time additional promo copies were needed, perhaps the original single master had already been doctored for reasons still unknown.]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:03:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57429&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57429 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57428&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57428 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 9:18am

Thanks Aaron.

If promo copies were issued with both endings, my only
logical conjecture is that some programmers out there
didn't like how the original single mix dumped-out
prematurely and wanted the slightly extended album
ending.

By the way, does anybody out there know who mixed the
single? Was it Jellybean Benitez?

I ask because the single uses production elements of
the Jellybean 12" remix, but he wasn't credited on the
45 (Michael Barbiero was credited on the LP).

Andy]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:18:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57428&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57428 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57427&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57427 Author: aaronk
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 8:16am

I definitely have promo copies without the RE, pressed on nice quality vinyl. As a kid, my stock copy was on styrene, but I think I may currently have both vinyl and styrene stock copies without the RE.]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 08:16:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57427&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57427 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57425&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57425 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 7:44am

My promo copy is the RE-1 version.

Can anyone confirm that they have a promo that is the
non-RE-1 version?

I'm wondering if radio stations got two versions (and
how many days/weeks apart)!

Does anyone in radio have any remembrance?

Andy]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 07:44:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57425&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57425 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57423&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57423 Author: aaronk
Subject: 280
Posted: 10 February 2021 at 7:31am

Technically, Gene, it's the last ~15 seconds, but everything else is right.]]> Wed, 10 Feb 2021 07:31:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57423&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57423 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57418&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57418 Author: NightAire
Subject: 280
Posted: 09 February 2021 at 10:11pm

To make sure I understand:

There were two singles released, one the full remix and the other the remix with the LP version tacked on for the last seven (EDIT: fifteen) seconds. At this point we're considering both of these "hit" mixes since they seem to have both been out while the single was climbing.

These same two versions were released as promos to radio stations, first the full remix and then the remix with the LP version tacked on the last seven (EDIT: fifteen) seconds. Both could easily be considered the "hit radio version" depending on when a particular station picked up the song.

If a radio station switches to another song before the last seven (EDIT: fifteen) seconds, there is no difference to be heard between the two promos.

The version with the tacked on LP ending is available many places digitally, while we have yet to find the full single remix without edit on CD.

Does that sum it up accurately?

Edited by NightAire]]> Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:11:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57418&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57418 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57416&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57416 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 280
Posted: 09 February 2021 at 7:35pm

That makes sense that they upgraded the "hallway" video's audio for the DVD, released decades later, to have less hissy sound quality. I hadn't thought of that. I also have Whitney's "Greatest Hits" DVD with 30 songs - I bet it has the same audio upgrade. BUT, I checked and I also have the VHS commercially released tape called the "#1 Video Hits", containing a total of 4 videos. The main hit singles from the 1st album. I bet if I pulled that out, it would have the "heartbeat" - because it wasn't released decades later. And it would be from a non-vinyl source. Like I said, I used the VHS commercially available tape of a Belinda Carlisle collection where they used the single remix for "I Feel the Magic" (follow-up to "Mad About You"). It was the only place at the time to get the much-improved single mix from a tape source and not vinyl. And also like I said, years later that music video was re-released on DVD but didn't sound as good.

On a similar note, when I upgraded Carly Simon's "Martha's Vineyard" concert from VHS to DVD, I found the DVD to be much inferior soundwise to the VHS.

Edited by EdisonLite]]> Tue, 09 Feb 2021 19:35:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=280&PID=57416&title=whitney-houston-how-will-i-know#57416