https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 12 Apr 2026 06:59:24 +0000 Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:49:18 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2927 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=67000&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#67000 Author: Paul C
Subject: 2927
Posted: 26 June 2025 at 3:49pm

The intros of “Never Thought (That I Could Love)” on the Love Of My Life: The Best Of Dan Hill CD and on my Canadian 45 sound the same to me. Neither sounds clipped.

There is a slight difference between “Can’t We Try” on this CD and on my Canadian 45, and that is that the CD does not have Dan’s opening breath. Does anyone know if the US 45 starts with the breath. Future generations will want to know!

The database gives the run time of “Can’t We Try” on Chart Toppers as 3:53, but on my copy it runs about 3:58.

Edited by Paul C - 26 June 2025 at 3:53pm]]> Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:49:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=67000&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#67000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66675&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66675 Author: prisdeej
Subject: 2927
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 10:49pm

Thanks for sending the file, Gordon. I lowered the volume on Love Of My Life: The Best Of Dan Hill and attached the half second of the intro to the wav file you sent me. Now the introduction is intact. The question remains if the intro is clipped on the vinyl 45? For completists sake if the clipped introduction of the single version of "Never Thought" was on both vinyl and promo CD then we have a similar situation with St. Elmo's Fire (Man In Motion).

Edited by prisdeej - 15 May 2025 at 1:58pm]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 22:49:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66675&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66675 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66636&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66636 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 2927
Posted: 11 May 2025 at 2:34am

AdvprosD wrote: I've had a long standing issue with Windows Media Player across several computers that the app truncates a song at times. Usually, it's when the very first song is loaded into a list. Any following songs play fine. I also get this when I single out a song for play. Other apps don't seem to do this like Media Player does. I don't think this is quite exactly what the problem is for this song in particular, but I can see that it is very similar. TBH, I don't think I noticed this much when I was using Windows XP or Windows 7. I think it's something to do with Windows 10, as that's when I started to notice it frequently.

Dave, with Windows Media Player, I find it skips about the 1st half second of a song on many songs in a playlist, not just the 1st song. (And all my songs already have a half second of silence because I add it whenever needed). I have Windows 11 - maybe that has something to do with it. I can't recall if it did it with my previous Windows (which was XP). If it did it then, it's definitely doing it a lot more frequently with Windows 11. Wish I could solve this problem. When it clips the beginning of a song, I go back to the end of the song before it, and then it doesn't do it. There's no rhyme or reason.]]> Sun, 11 May 2025 02:34:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66636&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66636 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66635&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66635 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 2927
Posted: 11 May 2025 at 2:31am

prisdeej wrote: EdisonLite wrote: So mystery solved. The intro isn't clipped on the CD single. It just starts right at 0:00 and many players will cut it off. I lined up both tracks from the CD single and from Love Of My Life The Best Of. There's about a half second of audio that's missing on the intro of the CD single version. I even added a few seconds of silence before the track. My copy is clipped at least. Perhaps you could forward me yours to compare? Thanks very much.

I'm just reading your post now. Yes, I can supply that. Please PM me with your email address.]]> Sun, 11 May 2025 02:31:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=66635&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#66635 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=65799&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#65799 Author: prisdeej
Subject: 2927
Posted: 23 February 2025 at 6:43pm

EdisonLite wrote: So mystery solved. The intro isn't clipped on the CD single. It just starts right at 0:00 and many players will cut it off.

I lined up both tracks from the CD single and from
Love Of My Life The Best Of. There's about a half
second of audio that's missing on the intro of the CD
single version. I even added a few seconds of silence
before the track. My copy is clipped at least. Perhaps
you could forward me yours to compare? Thanks very much. ]]> Sun, 23 Feb 2025 18:43:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=65799&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#65799 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57140&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57140 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 2927
Posted: 18 January 2021 at 12:34pm

I've had a long standing issue with Windows Media Player across several computers that the app truncates a song at times. Usually, it's when the very first song is loaded into a list.
Any following songs play fine. I also get this when I single out a song for play. Other apps don't seem to do this like Media Player does.

I don't think this is quite exactly what the problem is for this song in particular, but I can see that it is very similar.

TBH, I don't think I noticed this much when I was using Windows XP or Windows 7. I think it's something to do with Windows 10, as that's when I started to notice it frequently.]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2021 12:34:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57140&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57140 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57117&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57117 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 2927
Posted: 17 January 2021 at 2:54am

An update about the truncation people have noticed on the "Never Thought" promo CD single. I finally pulled out that single and the "Love of My Life" CD. This truncation issue puzzled me because I supplied the very CD single that was used for "Love of My Life".

I played both on my CD player and heard the truncation on the single, and not the compilation CD. I had a theory because I didn't think Dan or his team would take the 1st second from the album version to fix this problem for the "Love of My Life" album.

On many physical CD players and digital ones, too - If a song truly starts right at 0:00 and not a half a second later, the player can truncate the beginning (even digital players on your computer) when playing. So I loaded the CD single into my computer and checked it out in Wavelab. It does indeed start at the very beginning. (Well, of course, it would if it was truncated). But it sounded pretty much unclipped to me there. So I added half a second of silence in front of it on the WAV file. And it did not sound clipped! (If it's still clipping, it's like 1% of what the CD single was doing in my CD player, but I really think I was hearing the whole beginning of the note).

So mystery solved. The intro isn't clipped on the CD single. It just starts right at 0:00 and many players will cut it off.

Incidentally, if a song were to start right at 0:00 on, say, Tracks 2-10 of a CD, it wouldn't be a problem, because it would play from song 1 into song 2 just fine, etc. (unless, again, you started the disc on Track 2).

But this was a CD single with just one track. So on a physical player, there's no way to get around the clip unless you have a CD player that doesn't truncate a file that starts right at 0.

Edited by EdisonLite]]> Sun, 17 Jan 2021 02:54:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57117&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57117 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57038&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57038 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 2927
Posted: 07 January 2021 at 9:11pm

I just obtained a copy of the Love Of My Life: The Best Of Dan Hill compilation and it sounds as though "Never Thought (That I Could Love)"
(Single Remix Version) is truncate-free. ]]> Thu, 07 Jan 2021 21:11:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=57038&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#57038 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=56775&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#56775 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 2927
Posted: 13 December 2020 at 5:05pm

AdvprosD wrote: Maybe this version was created just for this collection?

Just to confirm, I sent Dan Hill a CDR of my promo CD single, made in 1988, for him to use on the "Love of My Life" CD. The mix isn't all that different, btw. A couple of sung & spoken "I love you"s overdubbed. Maybe a few other things, but nothing major.]]> Sun, 13 Dec 2020 17:05:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=56775&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#56775 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=56673&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#56673 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 2927
Posted: 01 December 2020 at 1:39am

AdvprosD wrote: Listening through, I'm certain it isn't the same as the GoldDisc 151 version either. Maybe this version was created just for this collection?

The GoldDisc has the Album Version. The "Single Remix" version is the one that's on the Promo CD Single and the commercial 45 from 1988, so it existed long before the Love Of My Life compilation.

Thanks for taking the time to check the waveform. I'll probably get the compilation just out of curiosity and there's several other songs I like on there anyway.]]> Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:39:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2927&PID=56673&title=dan-hill-vonda-sheppardcant-we-try#56673