https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 01:28:10 +0000 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:09:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3174 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=33773&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#33773 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3174
Posted: 17 April 2012 at 4:09pm


Ed I have determied that the cd version of "The Other
Sides - Worlwide Gold Award Hits Volume 2" does not contain the same version of "I've Lost You" as the vinyl LP release of the same title. Hence I had to change a lot of comments in the database as the 45 version has yet to appear on compact disc. The Essential 70's cd that you mentioned above does not contain the 45 version.]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:09:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=33773&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#33773 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=33738&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#33738 Author: edtop40
Subject: 3174
Posted: 14 April 2012 at 6:58pm

i just compared the vinyl 45 to the essential 70's cd and
they sound the same to me....except the mono/stereo
differences.....in the db the entry for the esential 70's
cd is noted as the 'lp mix'....so the 'lp mix' is the same
as the '45 version'?.....any help would be welcomed...]]> Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:58:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=33738&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#33738 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21528&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21528 Author: Robert
Subject: 3174
Posted: 10 March 2009 at 9:35pm

Pat, you've cleared up one thing: my reference to the 3:54 version as an LP version was just an assumption on my part. I was unaware that the 3:54 version was a newer mix and not the LP mix. That answers my earlier question of which version appeared on the CD.

So what you're saying is that the true LP version is not the 3:54 version that's referred to on the DB. And that it has appeared only on the vinyl version of "Worldwide Gold Award Hits Volume 2." That makes sense.

As for the differences between the vinyl (LP) version and the 45, I agree they are minimal. I do think that the 45 has chorus overdubs that the LP version doesn't have right at the end. The only thing that needs to be clarified is whether the 45 version has appeared on CD. My ears still tell me that the ones listed in the DB as 45 versions are the 3:54 version faded early. ]]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:35:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21528&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21528 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21526&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21526 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3174
Posted: 10 March 2009 at 8:35pm

Robert you keep coming back to this (3:54) LP version and this (3:54) version never appeared on a vinyl LP that I am aware of and is missing overdubs. I understand the differences you are pointing out between that (3:54) version and what was released on 45. But the "LP version" is not this version you keep referencing, the LP verion or "mix" as I state comes from the vinyl LP "Worldwide Gold Award Hits Volume 2" and to me this version is almost identical to the vinyl 45 with the exception of a few minor mix differences. What I am asking is what differences do you hear between the "Worldwide Gold Award Hits volume 2" version and the vinyl 45?     ]]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:35:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21526&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21526 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21525&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21525 Author: Robert
Subject: 3174
Posted: 10 March 2009 at 3:03pm

Pat, the LP version (From my "Heart & Soul" CD) contains an extra "I've Lost You Yes I've Lost You" refrain.

There is an instrumental bridge (w/piano and what sounds like an oboe) from 2:36-2:48, then a repeat of "I've Lost You Yes I've Lost You." Then at 3:03 there is another instrumental bridge, followed by another "I've Lost You" refrain, and then yet another instrumental bridge at 3:28, followed by the refrain fadeout. If you remove the 2nd "I've Lost You" starting at the drum beat at 2:46 and connecting up with the drumbeat at the end of the next instrumental bridge at 3:12, you'll have it.

So to answer your question, there is another vocal refrain and instrumental bridge in the LP version and that's why it times out to 3:54 instead of 3:29. You mentioned that this 3:54 version has appeared on "Other Sides." If that's the case, then they switched versions when they released the CD because my vinyl version of "Other Sides" contains the mono 45 (3:29) version. Hope this helps.

Edited by Robert]]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:03:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21525&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21525 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21521&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21521 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3174
Posted: 10 March 2009 at 6:31am

Robert what do you hear on the 45 that you do not hear on any of the cd's that now say LP mix with LP mix meaning what appears on "Worldwide Gold Award Hits Volume 2" or any other cd's where I specify LP mix? ]]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:31:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21521&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21521 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21512&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21512 Author: Robert
Subject: 3174
Posted: 09 March 2009 at 9:39pm

Forgot to add... it is the 45 version that appears on the vinyl "The Other Sides." I don't have the CD, but it should be easy to compare the 45 with the LP version. If the CD version of the CD is identical to the vinyl version, then that would be the only appearance of the 45 that I'm aware of. My vinyl LP version is in mono, as is the 45. ]]> Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:39:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21512&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21512 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21511&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21511 Author: Robert
Subject: 3174
Posted: 09 March 2009 at 9:35pm

Pat, I agree that both are the same vocal take, and that the long version is missing the overdubs, but the 45 version edits out the repeat of the final verse. In other words, on the 45 there is only one instrumental bridge at the end while there are two on the 3:54 version. It is the first of these two that are removed from the 3:54 version to make the 3:29 45 version. I have created this edit and it works well - except for the overdubs and the slightly different mix. And I'm pretty sure that the 3:29 45s that are listed in the DB are the 3:54 version that fades after the first of the two repeats instead of editing out the first one. Be glad to send you an mp3 if it would help.]]> Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:35:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21511&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21511 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21507&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21507 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 3174
Posted: 09 March 2009 at 6:36pm

Robert, after listening to the long and short studio versions of "I've Lost You" that appear on cd here is what I come up with. The (3:54) versions appear to be the same vocal take as the 45, but those versions are longer and missing some overdubs found on the 45. Now as far as an "LP version" goes, this song first appeared on vinyl in a studio recording on "The Other Sides - Worldwide Gold Award Hits Volume 2" where it runs (3:29) and when I compare this version to the 45, I find only slight mix differences so I can't really say there is an LP version but I would agree there is an LP mix and a 45 mix. ]]> Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:36:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21507&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21507 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21505&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21505 Author: Robert
Subject: 3174
Posted: 09 March 2009 at 4:32pm

After checking both the long and the short versions of this song I am convinced that the entries noted as "45 vers" are actually not the 45 version, but are early fades of the LP in an unsuccessful attempt to create the 45. Would the long version, then, be an LP Version? The actual 45 edit removes appx 2:46.464-3:12.082. However, there are chorus overdubs that are missing on the stereo version, so the 45-edit cannot be made from the longer version. My (mono)45 times at 3:28. This correct 45 version does appear on the vinyl "Other Sides" but I don't have the CD to determine whether it's there, too. Hope this all helps. ]]> Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:32:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3174&PID=21505&title=ive-lost-you-elvis-presley#21505