https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 21:12:23 +0000 Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:49:39 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3196 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50503&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50503 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 3196
Posted: 06 November 2018 at 6:49pm

Ron S wrote: What about.... the best of Aretha Franklin 1980-1998? Does it have the correct 45 version and does it drag?

It is on that CD and no it does not drag. That disc has several DJ edits and 45 versions on it that are not easy to find on CD.]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:49:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50503&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50503 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50502&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50502 Author: Ron S
Subject: 3196
Posted: 06 November 2018 at 6:09pm

garye wrote: The deluxe CD set of Who's Zoomin'Who contains the 4 mixes of Freeway;The LP Mix, Single Mix, Rock Mix and extended mix. Listening to all 4, they seem to match what is being discussed here. So the deluxe CD has the actual 45 mix at 4:07 as the 45 label shows.

Yet, no Single Mix of Who's Zoomin Who....blah.....

Edited by Ron S]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:09:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50502&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50502 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50501&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50501 Author: garye
Subject: 3196
Posted: 06 November 2018 at 5:36pm

The deluxe CD set of Who's Zoomin'Who contains the 4
mixes of Freeway;The LP Mix, Single Mix, Rock Mix and
extended mix. Listening to all 4, they seem to match
what is being discussed here. So the deluxe CD has the
actual 45 mix at 4:07 as the 45 label shows.]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:36:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50501&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50501 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50479&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50479 Author: Ron S
Subject: 3196
Posted: 02 November 2018 at 7:43pm

What about.... the best of Aretha Franklin 1980-1998? Does it have the correct
45 version and does it drag?]]> Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:43:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=50479&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#50479 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=34222&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#34222 Author: Indy500
Subject: 3196
Posted: 18 May 2012 at 5:34pm

crapfromthepast wrote: So for the true 45 version, I recommend Arista The First 20 Years (1997).

Do you have the Deluxe Who's Zoomin' Who because that has every version of Freeway assuming they used the correct single mix.]]> Fri, 18 May 2012 17:34:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=34222&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#34222 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=34217&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#34217 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3196
Posted: 16 May 2012 at 8:28pm

Much to report on for this song.

First, my 45. Arista AS1-9354, matrix number AS-1-9354-SA-DJ-RCA-1, printed 4:09, actual 4:09, 126.1 BPM throughout with no drifts.

The 45 is a dedicated mix, and can't be edited down from the LP version. The most obvious example is at the line starting "so drop the top baby..." (at 3:00 on the 45, at 3:30 on the LP). The LP version has some extra background keyboard stuff that's not on the 45.

The first place the short 45 version appeared on CD was a 3-CD set from Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products called After Hours (1990). Unfortunately, the last half of the song suffers from tape drag, and the tempo drops from 126.5 BPM at the start of the song to 125.5 BPM at the end. That's no good. Oddly enough, After Hours has a handful of other tracks (most from Arista) that all suffer from the same kind of tape drag, including "Don't Shed A Tear", "Tell It To My Heart", "Whip It", "Seasons Change", "Hold Me Now" and "Everybody Have Fun Tonight".

Two other CDs use the same analog transfer as After Hours, and both sound the same as After Hours, tape drag and all:

• JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1985-1989 (1994)
• Razor & Tie's 2-CD Everything '80s (1995)

The next time the 45 version turned up was on Swaitek's for-radio 50-CD set The A-List Disc 31 (1994). No tape drag, and it runs at 126.1 BPM throughout, but it's an edit of the LP version - you can tell from the extra keyboards over the "so drop the top baby" line at 3:00. It's the same edit of the LP version that's on TM Century's GoldDisc 3002, and I suspect that the A List collection uses the TM discs as its source. Both versions are not the true 45.

(The 45 edit appears on Rhino's Black Entertainment Television 15th Anniversary disc, which I don't have.)

Fortunately, there's a commercially available collection from Arista called The First 20 Years (1997). This indeed has the true 45 version, printed 4:10, actual 4:09, 126.0 BPM throughout with no tape drag. The shape of the fade matches the true 45 and everything. Sound is pretty good, too.

So for the true 45 version, I recommend Arista The First 20 Years (1997).

The LP version also appeared on some of the commercial 45s, and (I think) as the B-side of the promo 45. I don't suspect that there's anything unusual about the LP version on those 45s, since Ed reported that they run 5:49.

The LP version first appeared on Who's Zoomin' Who, and it sounds just fine. It runs 5:50, starting at 126.1 BPM and ending at 126.2 BPM, so effectively no tape drag or drifts.

A boatload of other CDs all use the same analog transfer as Zoomin':

• Sandstone's Rock The First Vol. 6 (1992)
• Arista's Greatest Hits 1980-1994 (1994, differently EQ'd digital clone)
• Priority's Eighties Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 10 Dance All Night (1994; digitally exactly 2 dB louder than Greatest Hits)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 2 1985 (1994)
• Time-Life's Legends Of Soul Vol. 4 (2001; digitally exactly 1 dB louder than Greatest Hits)
• Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul '80s Rhythm And Grooves (2001; differently EQ'd digital clone of Sounds Of The Eighties 1985)

Finally, there was one more new analog transfer done for Rhino's Billboard Hot R&B Hits 1985 (1995), where it runs 5:50 and also starts at 126.1 BPM and ends at 126.2 BPM. I'm partial to the Bill Inglot mastering. Both sound quite good, though, and you won't be disappointed with either. One disc that's a differently EQ'd digital clone of Billboard Hot R&B Hits 1985:

• Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 26 Mid-'80s (2000)

So for the LP version, I recommend Billboard Hot R&B Hits 1985 (1995).

Finally, there's the remix known as the "Rock Mix" from the 12" single. This is really a spectacular remix, with some great guitar overdubs. It even got played at least once on American Top 40; I stumbled across it when I was doing some Clarence Clemons research. On Rhino's Billboard Top Dance Hits 1985 (1998), it runs 4:50, beginning at 126.1 and ending at 126.2 BPM. The mastering is quite loud/compressed/limited on this disc, but there aren't many choices for this version.

(Edit: I got a WAV file of the Zoomin' version after my original post, so I updated this post with the corrected info. Tidied up the formatting, too

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 20:28:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=34217&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#34217 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=33940&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#33940 Author: Indy500
Subject: 3196
Posted: 23 April 2012 at 5:14pm

The new expanded edition of Who's Zoomin' Who? contains:
lp mix
single mix
Rock mix (the remix that runs 4:40)
Extended remix (6:28)

Edited by Indy500]]> Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:14:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=33940&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#33940 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=14968&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#14968 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3196
Posted: 16 March 2008 at 3:46pm

Thanks, guys, for the scans - they look terrific!]]> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:46:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=14968&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#14968 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=14962&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#14962 Author: abagon
Subject: 3196
Posted: 16 March 2008 at 7:47am

This scan image is my stock 45 of "AS-1-9354-SA-DJ-RCA..."
I don't have the picture sleeve for it.
The another side is "Until You Say You Love Me".



Dear edtop40:
Thank you very much for the scan image of "5:49 version"

Edited by abagon]]> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:47:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=14962&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#14962 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3196&PID=14957&title=aretha-franklin-freeway-of-love#14957 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 3196
Posted: 15 March 2008 at 7:22pm

crapfromthepast wrote: I seem to remember that the 45 for "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was on clear vinyl, but I'm not 100% sure...

100% it is!

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