https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:23:10 +0000 Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:59:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3327 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66222&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66222 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3327
Posted: 25 March 2025 at 8:59pm

Thanks for clarifying, Aaron. I suspect that a similar explanation is why nearly all CD appearances containing the LP version/long 45 version of "The Greatest Love of All" run several seconds shorter than the vinyl 45, though it would be great if someone could confirm this as well.

Meanwhile, now that I'm listening to the uploaded YouTube video of the short 45 version more closely, it does indeed sound like it was sourced from CD. Given this user's extensive history of uploading restored vinyl 45s onto the site, I had previously been under the (incorrect) impression that all of his uploads were sourced from whatever vinyl 45 was posted in his thumbnail photos. Now that I know otherwise, I will be more cognizant of this going forward.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:59:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66222&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66222 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66198&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66198 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3327
Posted: 24 March 2025 at 7:43am

CD versions with the short version run just a tad faster than the actual 45 and fade about a second sooner. It's fairly insignificant, but that's what accounts for the :03 difference.]]> Mon, 24 Mar 2025 07:43:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66198&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66198 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66197&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66197 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3327
Posted: 24 March 2025 at 7:37am

I have a dub of this 45 from Chuck, and his copy also runs 3:35. I believe the YouTube video posted by AnotherProf is a CD copy. There's not a trace of vinyl noise in that video.]]> Mon, 24 Mar 2025 07:37:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66197&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66197 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66190&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66190 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3327
Posted: 23 March 2025 at 11:00pm

I could only find one commercial short 45 vinyl copy of George Benson's "Greatest Love of All" uploaded on YouTube, and it's from a reputable user named "AnotherProf", whose turntable speed seems to be fairly reliable overall. (I can't recall an instance offhand when I have found the 45 run times on any of his videos to be off by anything more than maybe one second.) What's interesting here is that his 45 copy runs 3:32, just like all database appearances containing the short 45 length:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjWywlM2xac

Now, I exercise great caution with utilizing YouTube videos as a means of definitively determining run times because, obviously, there could be several factors in play here. For example, the fade at the very end of this video is pretty abrupt. Is this reflective of what's on the 45 itself, or did the video creator possibly "help along" the fade in the final second(s) by potting down the volume himself? Also, was his turntable speed properly calibrated at the time when his video was created? Of course, we really have no way of knowing for certain, even if the speed may appear to sound "normal" (at least, to my ears, anyway). Or are we perhaps looking at a case here where there are two different 45 pressings with differing lengths of 3:35 and 3:32? This would certainly not be a first.

Another possibility is that perhaps Jim's 3:35 timing was slightly off, for whatever reason. I would say this is probably the least likely scenario, however, because he was always a stickler for accuracy with this sort of thing, and his 45 timings have historically reflected this.

Does anyone else in the forum have a commercial 45 pressing of either, or both, the long 45 and short 45 versions of "Greatest Love of All" who are willing to time and report their findings for us?

By the way, on an unrelated side note, I very recently picked up a copy of The Greatest soundtrack CD on the Varese Sarabande label, and it's a treat to be able to hear a couple of tracks on it -- "Stand by Me" and "I Am the Greatest" -- sung by Cassius Clay, or better known around the world as Muhammad Ali himself! These songs were released as a double-sided single in 1964, and both sides actually cracked the Billboard Bubbling Under the Hot 100 singles chart. I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised to hear how reasonably well the legendary boxer could carry a tune... Better than I had imagined, anyway!]]> Sun, 23 Mar 2025 23:00:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66190&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66190 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66186&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66186 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3327
Posted: 23 March 2025 at 1:44pm

Re asking a question of mine from 2021 -

All of the short 45 versions in the database run 3:32 and
Jim's 45 ran 3:35. Is the reason for the 3:32 versions
running shorter? Is it a pitch issue?]]> Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:44:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66186&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66186 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66179&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66179 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3327
Posted: 23 March 2025 at 8:22am

My opinion, for consistency, is to leave the LP/long 45 versions with no designation since they are the same. For sure, CDs with the "short 45 version" should be labeled accordingly.]]> Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:22:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66179&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66179 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66166&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66166 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3327
Posted: 21 March 2025 at 11:36pm

Thanks for confirming that, Paul. This is leading me to debate in my mind whether I think it might be useful to add "LP Version/45 version" comments next to each database CD entry, although in this case, the comments would have to read something more specifically like: (LP version and long 45 version) vs. (short 45 version). One thing that complicates this somewhat, however, is the fact that nearly every database CD containing George Benson's "Greatest Love of All", incredibly, runs several seconds shorter than their respective 45 lengths, so this would probably need to be acknowledged as well. Then again, perhaps there's already adequate information in the title notes to enable database users to deduce all of this on their own? I don't know, does anyone have an opinion on whether it would be helpful to include individual CD comments here?]]> Fri, 21 Mar 2025 23:36:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66166&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66166 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66131&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66131 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 3327
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 4:15am

Todd Ireland wrote: Is the original motion picture soundtrack of The Greatest considered the parent vinyl LP of George Benson's "Greatest Love of All"? Or did the song originate from another album in 1977?

Yes, the hit studio version didn't appear on a George
Benson LP until The George Benson Collection in
late 1981. There is a live version on Weekend In L.A.
from early 1978.

Edited by Paul Haney]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 04:15:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66131&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66131 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66130&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66130 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3327
Posted: 20 March 2025 at 4:00am

Is the original motion picture soundtrack of The Greatest considered the parent vinyl LP of George Benson's "Greatest Love of All"? Or did the song originate from another album in 1977? ]]> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 04:00:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=66130&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#66130 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=59847&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#59847 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 3327
Posted: 21 December 2021 at 7:29pm

Thanks for reporting, Aaron!

Andy]]> Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:29:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3327&PID=59847&title=george-bensongreatest-love-of-all#59847