https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 05 May 2026 01:54:34 +0000 Sat, 15 May 2021 14:02:25 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3343 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=58188&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#58188 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 3343
Posted: 15 May 2021 at 2:02pm

Have the original mixes (from tape) ever come out for "Everybody Be Dancin'" and "I Got to Know"? Bruce Blackman retrieved the master tapes from the studio in Atlanta and was going to release proper CDs, but as far as I know, he never did. Does anyone know for sure?]]> Sat, 15 May 2021 14:02:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=58188&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#58188 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=58081&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#58081 Author: VWestlife
Subject: 3343
Posted: 27 April 2021 at 4:04pm

Did Bruce re-remix the tracks on his www.moonlightfeelsright.com web site since they were first discussed here in 2009? "Moonlight Feels Right" is now listed as the correct length and sounds like the original mix, including the drum fill before the vocals that was reported as missing earlier in this thread.

In fact, I hear a little bit of graininess in the sound, but I don't know whether it's just from the MP3 encoding of the web site, or if he possibly used a very clean needledrop of vinyl as the new source.]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:04:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=58081&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#58081 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=52367&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#52367 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3343
Posted: 17 August 2019 at 8:25pm

For those two tracks, I still go back to the Have A Nice Day discs. I haven't run across anything that sounds better.]]> Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:25:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=52367&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#52367 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=52366&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#52366 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 3343
Posted: 17 August 2019 at 6:59pm

Any recommendations for the best sounding CD releases for "Everybody Be Dancin'" and "Making Our Dreams Come True." Both songs are discussed in this thread and I realize they may all be sourced by vinyl.]]> Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:59:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=52366&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#52366 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21845&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21845 Author: MPH711
Subject: 3343
Posted: 30 March 2009 at 7:59am

To Bruce: I wish you could have put the opening drum notes on to "I Got To Know"...I just hate the way it sounds with you leaving these opening drums off!]]> Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:59:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21845&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21845 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21827&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21827 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 3343
Posted: 28 March 2009 at 12:18am

Well, I got an email from the man himself ... Bruce Blackman. He told me what went on and I thought I'd share it with everyone here. Now I realize it was not a case of him trying to be artsy and change the mixes to his liking in 2009. It was a case of some instrumental tracks -- like the drums -- being destroyed. And after reading what he wrote, I have a lot of respect for him. Here's what he wrote me about the 2009 "Offical Starbuck" CD:


My mixes came from the original multi-track masters (although it took me several years to restore them).
Most were 8 track, 1 inch, some were from 15 track (one track in the studio didn't work) and some from 24 track. It took me 8 years to get the job done. The studio masters were severely damaged and some of the original tracks were destroyed (especially drums).

Our recording sessions were a little different. I always recorded every song on my Tascam 8 track and the
band would then learn the song. Some of the songs are just me playing and others are me and Bo Wagner.
My original 8 track masters were identical to the finished masters but with a little less quality. With the new technology available today, I was able to work mostly with my original 8 tracks and bring them up to modern standards.

To answer your question succinctly, my CD comes from new mixes of the original multi-track masters.

Bruce Blackman


Edited by EdisonLite]]> Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:18:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21827&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21827 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21820&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21820 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3343
Posted: 27 March 2009 at 6:59pm

The Hits Man wrote: EdisonLite wrote:    Clearly, Bruce Blackman had the multi-track master tapes in his hands and yet he chose to remix the songs,    Well, that's all you can do with a multitrack! The multis are just the individual tracks that have to be mixed into a mono, two, or 5.1 mixdown. It is the two-track stereo mixdowns that no longer exist.

No, he's saying he wishes the multi-track master tapes were used to faithfully recreate the original stereo mixes, rather than having new instrumentation added.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:59:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21820&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21820 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21816&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21816 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 3343
Posted: 27 March 2009 at 5:56pm

EdisonLite wrote:    Clearly, Bruce Blackman had the multi-track master tapes in his hands and yet he chose to remix the songs,

   Well, that's all you can do with a multitrack! The multis are just the individual tracks that have to be mixed into a mono, two, or 5.1 mixdown. It is the two-track stereo mixdowns that no longer exist.]]> Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:56:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21816&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21816 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21804&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21804 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3343
Posted: 27 March 2009 at 10:51am

I received my copy of the Official Starbuck CD in the mail and, while the sound quality is outstanding, I share in the disappointment that the songs aren't 100% faithful to the original stereo mixes. It appears Bruce may have been more concerned about getting the recordings to sound as clean and crystal clear as possible, even if it meant "reworking" certain instruments, to counter the plethera of poor sounding Starbuck vinyl dubs and bootlegs that exist in the marketplace.

Yet in Bruce's defense, I do believe a great deal of time and effort went into these mixes and I think the average casual listener would probably be satisfied with them. And since Bruce is independently selling and distributing this CD from his own website, it probably didn't make economic sense for him to spend over $100 an hour to hire an audio engineer to reconstruct the original stereo mixes for a CD compilation where the total sales would likely only recover a small fraction of the total engineering costs.

Most of us on this message board are historical "purists" who want our Top 40 music to sound exactly the way we remember hearing it on the radio and buying it at retail. Unfortunately, our numbers make up a small minority of the music buying public and as a result we are sadly becoming increasingly irrelevant when it comes to economic business decisions in an era where CD sales are dropping at an alarming rate. But I'm glad Starbuck is at least making a little money on their music from whatever sales are being generated from the Official disc.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:51:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21804&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21804 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21792&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21792 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 3343
Posted: 27 March 2009 at 1:43am

I listened to all 3 top 50 singles (thanks to John G) on the new Starbuck "Official" CD. Clearly, Bruce Blackman had the multi-track master tapes in his hands but he chose to remix the songs, adding new instrumentation and sometimes even new lead vocals, instead of trying to match the original mixes. I would have preferred he (or a professional mixer) listen closely to the original mixes and match them exactly but that would take time, effort & money. I guess we'll have to listen to our cleaned vinyl sources (except for "Moonlight" which luckily was always from tape) if we prefer to hear the songs the way we remember hearing them.

Edited by EdisonLite]]> Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:43:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3343&PID=21792&title=starbuckeverybody-be-dancin#21792