https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 05 May 2026 02:50:44 +0000 Thu, 13 May 2021 18:04:22 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3367 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=58173&title=peter-browndance-with-me#58173 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 3367
Posted: 13 May 2021 at 6:04pm

Peter Brown's tune is instantly catchy. Especially to my feet.

With that said, I was amazed that I did not stumble upon this tune until long after the 80's had come and gone. I absolutely totally enjoy this song.

Sometimes, I was known to get into projects and have a "Radio Off" period. One of these was during the popularity of Prince, "Raspberry Beret." Prince was
not among my favorites in the early days and I can see where I'd miss that song. But, the Dan Rather clip helped me also understand how I missed out on the
Peter Brown tune as well. I may have missed the short time it was a radio hit. Also, in 1978 I was still a few years too young to legally be in the clubs.

I just picked up a copy of the Betty Wright "Essentials", and ouch! That 45 version has some abrupt editing. I'm kinda glad now that I only mostly ever
heard the LP version. I know folks here praise purity, but it's sometimes a sacrifice. :)

Edited by AdvprosD]]> Thu, 13 May 2021 18:04:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=58173&title=peter-browndance-with-me#58173 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=58166&title=peter-browndance-with-me#58166 Author: Fetta
Subject: 3367
Posted: 12 May 2021 at 5:45pm

Awesome info Ron.

Here is a neat little piece that "60 Minutes" did in
1978 about the "Disco Craze". I post on this thread
because it you go to the 5:05 mark in the clip, you will
see Peter Brown in the Studio recording "Dance With Me"
and Dan Rather explaining the multi-tracking process.

A fun watch for those who might be interested. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3hy5BxDwkg&t=753s]]> Wed, 12 May 2021 17:45:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=58166&title=peter-browndance-with-me#58166 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=57894&title=peter-browndance-with-me#57894 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3367
Posted: 10 April 2021 at 7:22pm

Thirteen years after I last looked at this song...

LP and 12 inch single version (printed 5:18)

The song uses an early drum machine, rather than a live drummer, so the tempo is rock-solid throughout the song. The LP version runs at 110.2 BPM throughout, with no drifts. (I got the tempo from a YouTube clip of the LP version being played on a Technics 1200 turntable.)

The earliest CD with the LP version is Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 6 (1989), which is mastered a little too loud and clips a bit. It runs 111.8 BPM here. To bring it down to the proper LP speed, slow it down by 1.44 percent. The database should show the Priority disc as "LP version but faster".

The database shows two other CDs as having the LP version - Hot Productions' T.K. label compilation Best Of The Sound Of Sunshine (1991) and Collectables' Peter Brown full-length album A Fantasy Love Affair (released 1998). Rhino is responsible for the Collectables release, and I expect the sound would be quite nice. I don't own either one, though. Based on the run times, I expect that these run at the correct speed.

I do have the LP version on Ben Liebrand's Grand 12 Inches Vol. 10 (2013), where it sounds better than the Priority disc, and runs 109.8 BPM throughout. In practical terms, that's close enough to the proper LP speed so that you won't notice a difference. I routinely encounter speed differences like this from mastering to mastering. If you're a stickler, then speed this version up by 0.38 percent to exactly match the LP.

I'd bet a dollar that Grand 12 Inches Vol. 10 is a digital clone of the Collectables disc, but I can't confirm.

45 version (printed 3:45)

The 45 runs at 111.9 BPM throughout. (I got the tempo from another YouTube clip of the 45 version being played on a Technics 1200 turntable.) It's an edit of the LP, so it can likely be recreated from the LP version, but there's not much point in doing so because the 45 version is readily available on CD.

The oldest CDs I have with the 45 version both use the same analog transfer, and sound virtually identical: Rhino's Get Down Tonight The Best Of T.K. Records (1990) and Rhino's The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990). The sound quality is great, but the song runs too slow at 109.0 BPM throughout. To bring this version up to the proper LP speed, speed it up by 2.66 percent. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Rhino's cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 2 (1992) - digitally exactly 0.238 dB quieter than Get Down Tonight
• Sessions/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Ultimate Party Album (1992)
• Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 20 (1995) - absolute polarity inverted (insignificant), and EQ'd to have a little less high end
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 46 '70s Dance Party 1978-1979 (1997) - differently-EQ'd digital clone of The Disco Years

I'm willing to bet that every compilation that includes the 45 version is based on the Rhino mastering. The database shows the only CD having the 45 version at the correct 45 speed is Atlantic's Betty Wright The Essentials (2002).

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Sat, 10 Apr 2021 19:22:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=57894&title=peter-browndance-with-me#57894 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=31207&title=peter-browndance-with-me#31207 Author: mainrhythm
Subject: 3367
Posted: 05 August 2011 at 11:22pm

I don't know if this info is needed, but the LP Version from the LP is 5:17 and 108.7 BPM (108.66)

Edited by mainrhythm]]> Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:22:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=31207&title=peter-browndance-with-me#31207 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=30432&title=peter-browndance-with-me#30432 Author: davidclark
Subject: 3367
Posted: 05 June 2011 at 7:45am

what a great catch, eriejwg! I guess Betty being a mere featured vocalist on
this track caused it to be missed from the database. Great that it's on CD
and at the correct speed!]]> Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:45:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=30432&title=peter-browndance-with-me#30432 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=30431&title=peter-browndance-with-me#30431 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3367
Posted: 05 June 2011 at 6:47am

Just discovered the 45 version on Betty Wright's The Essentials on Rhapsody and it runs 3:41, just like the 45.]]> Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:47:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=30431&title=peter-browndance-with-me#30431 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=21560&title=peter-browndance-with-me#21560 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3367
Posted: 14 March 2009 at 8:46am

Pat:

Just wanted to bring this thread back up because the database was never updated with Jim's commercial 45 run time info for Peter Brown's "Dance with Me" (The actual run time is 3:41, not 3:45 as stated on the record label). Also, it appears all CDs with a "45 version" comment should be amended to read "45 version but slower".]]> Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:46:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=21560&title=peter-browndance-with-me#21560 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15798&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15798 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3367
Posted: 30 April 2008 at 7:27am

With regard to the pitch/tempo differences:

I have the 45 version on Rhino's The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990), where it runs 109.0 BPM. There are digital clones of this mastering on Rhino's cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 2, and on Time-Life's Seventies Dance Party 1978-1979 (which has a different EQ than the other two) - both are also 109.0 BPM.

I have the LP version on Priority's Mega Hits Dance Classics Vol. 6, where it runs 111.8 BPM.

That's a difference of 2.5%.

I don't have the 45 handy (it's at home in a very large, unsorted box), but I tend to think that the Rhino CD has the proper pitch/tempo. This wouldn't be the first time that a Disco Years track is much slower than a Mega Hits Dance Classics track - "Disco Nights (Rock-Freak)" by GQ is 126.5 BPM on MHDC, but 123.2 BPM on DY and its Time-Life digital clones.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:27:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15798&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15798 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15792&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15792 Author: abagon
Subject: 3367
Posted: 30 April 2008 at 12:30am

Thank you for your response, Jim.

About my above post:
(STEINBURG "Clean3.0") is incorrect.
(STEINBERG "Clean3.0") is correct!.
sorry,abagon
]]> Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:30:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15792&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15792 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15775&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15775 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3367
Posted: 29 April 2008 at 12:14pm

Pitched my copy up +3% and the resulting file runs 3:41.]]> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:14:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3367&PID=15775&title=peter-browndance-with-me#15775