https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 23:52:31 +0000 Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:57:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3378 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49856&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49856 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3378
Posted: 10 August 2018 at 9:57am

Cool Edit Pro is my favorite audio editor. I use 2.1, and there are some
nice EQ tools. It's one of the more difficult things to match between
different sources, though, and it takes a lot of practice, critical listening,
and tinkering to get it right. ]]> Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:57:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49856&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49856 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49854&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49854 Author: chendagam
Subject: 3378
Posted: 10 August 2018 at 9:25am

I feel like I may be getting better at this stuff since that is exactly what I did
when I made my own edit. Unfortunately the next day when I listened again
it still didn't sound right so I just did the edit straight with no modification to
the bass and treble. I guess I'll have to go back and revisit it. Thank you for
the clarification Aaron. Any suggestions on the best software to change the
highs and lows? I currently use a very old version of Cool Edit Pro. I actually
edited this song in an old version of Adobe Premiere.]]> Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:25:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49854&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49854 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49845&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49845 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3378
Posted: 08 August 2018 at 9:08pm

I pulled my promo CD single, and I agree with John. The two mixes are different in at least some places. As he stated, the intro of the Remix/Edit is nowhere to be found on the full Extended Remix.

Also, the Extended Remix has a lot of bass and not as much high end as the Remix/Edit. If you were to edit the two versions together, you'd need to reduce the bass on the Extended Mix and boost the highs a little to make them match sonically.]]> Wed, 08 Aug 2018 21:08:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49845&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49845 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49832&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49832 Author: chendagam
Subject: 3378
Posted: 07 August 2018 at 9:33pm

You can't edit the the full remix down into the single remix since the opening
is exclusive to the 45 (The Morning Sun Remix/Edit). The instrumental bridge
also has some exclusive parts (i.e. the drums cut out on the full remix). Also
after a closer listen (and I just made my own edit bringing back the missing
lines from the chorus) I believe the full remix and the single remix may be
slightly different. I may need an audio expert to take a closer listen. Aaron?]]> Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:33:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=49832&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#49832 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=44548&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#44548 Author: NightAire
Subject: 3378
Posted: 24 October 2015 at 2:41pm

Does anybody have the edit points for the Shep Pettibone remix to make the single version (The Morning Sun Remix/Edit)?

Believe it or not, all I have access to right now is the extended version. :-\]]> Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:41:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=44548&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#44548 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25633&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25633 Author: chendagam
Subject: 3378
Posted: 27 March 2010 at 6:58am

If you own the promo CD it's very easy to create you own edit combining the edit and the full remix version to bring the full chorus back in tact. I actually had to do this for a home video I created back in 1994. Speaking of 1994, when New Order released their best of album a slight remix of this song entitled "True Faith 94" was added. I'm no musical expert but I think they just went back and mixed the song a little better. From memory, the track is edited the same as the original "Album Edit" from 1987 but fades out a little sooner so that may be the discrepancy in run times listed in various databases since there are 1987 versions as well as 1994 versions. My local radio station picked the song back up in 1994 and played it all the time. I thought it was a brand new song and was shocked to find out it was 7 years old at the time.

The bright lights big city soundtrack version is just the long remix version but faded out early.

Edited by chendagam]]> Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:58:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25633&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25633 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25400&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25400 Author: Roscoe
Subject: 3378
Posted: 07 March 2010 at 12:55pm

The 45 version does indeed edit some lines from the chorus. The full version of the chorus is as follows:

I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun.

The 45 version cuts out the 2 lines beginning with "To the childhood I lost...". The edit actually causes the last part of the chorus not to make sense, so I'm not sure why they did it that way.

But the mix on the 45 version is much better than the LP version. I always wondered if there was a version that was the full LP version but utilizing the Shep Pettibone remix like the 45.

Edited by Roscoe]]> Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:55:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25400&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25400 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25398&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25398 Author: mstgator
Subject: 3378
Posted: 07 March 2010 at 9:59am

Yeah, I believe the four-minute edits cut the chorus from six lines to four. I don't recall if it was lines 3-4 or lines 4-5 that were excised, but it always bugged me to hear that as well.

(The "Morning Sun Edit" on Bright Lights, Big City has the full chorus. It has a long intro, with vocals starting at 1:17, and fades soon after the final chorus. The mix itself is also different than what's on Singles.)]]> Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:59:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25398&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25398 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25395&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25395 Author: Steve Sharp
Subject: 3378
Posted: 06 March 2010 at 9:55pm

I've always been dissatisfied with both edits, as they cut part of the song's hook (cuting lyrics, and not for content). I'm going by memory, I'd have to pull out my copy of the aforementioned cd single to detail exactly what was cut.]]> Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:55:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25395&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25395 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25393&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25393 Author: mstgator
Subject: 3378
Posted: 06 March 2010 at 2:53pm

The database currently lists both Singles and Bright Lights Big City O.S.T. as having the LP version. Despite the similar run times though, these are definitely not the same version as each other (obvious from the first few seconds). I'm guessing Singles has the true LP version (I don't own Substance to compare). My iTunes tags the soundtrack version as "Shep Pettibone's Morning Sun Edit", so I'm wondering if this is another version of the mixes that appear on the promo and 12" singles?

Edited by mstgator]]> Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:53:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378&PID=25393&title=for-jim-new-order-true-faith#25393