https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:51:58 +0000 Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:36:14 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3517 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39535&title=charlene-from-1982#39535 Author: MMathews
Subject: 3517
Posted: 29 October 2013 at 1:36am

Oh dear, I was just about to mix the backing track and
vocal together.
I must report that the version they used for the Karaoke
set is an alternate vocal take. The backing track is the
correct hit, but it seems they didn't have a multi-track
with the hit vocal take, so they used an alternate.
I was aware they had this problem with 1 or 2 of the 60's
hits, but I didn't know it affected this one too.
All the others I've heard on this set are the correct hit
versions.
MM
]]> Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:36:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39535&title=charlene-from-1982#39535 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39530&title=charlene-from-1982#39530 Author: MMathews
Subject: 3517
Posted: 28 October 2013 at 12:20pm

I should clarify that the above mentioned Karaoke CD's are not re-created recordings. These were licenced from Motown and all tracks are the real original recordings, not re-makes. They used the actual session tapes.
The content stretches from the early 60's thru the early 80's. There were quite a few volumes, don't recall how many.
Very cool stuff for collectors who like to make their own mixes.
MM]]> Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:20:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39530&title=charlene-from-1982#39530 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39523&title=charlene-from-1982#39523 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 3517
Posted: 28 October 2013 at 12:44am

The instrumental that I sourced was NOT a karaoke CD. It was a true instrumental. I will have to go find it on a backup, as I simply downloaded it after searching. This was some years ago now.
]]> Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:44:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39523&title=charlene-from-1982#39523 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39521&title=charlene-from-1982#39521 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 3517
Posted: 27 October 2013 at 8:34pm

Interesting! Do you have a WAV of the stereo instrumental mix from this Karaoke CD? Sounds like one of us should do some editing!]]> Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:34:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39521&title=charlene-from-1982#39521 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39515&title=charlene-from-1982#39515 Author: MMathews
Subject: 3517
Posted: 27 October 2013 at 4:40pm

Gordon,
Just FYI - this track was included on the Singing Machine
Karaoke set for Motown hits. It appears in 2 ways, one
track is the stereo instrumental backing track, complete.
The other track is a 2-Track version with the entire
instrumental in one channel, and the isolated vocal track
in the other.
So, a new mix without the spoken part can in theory be
easily created in any wav or multitrack editing software.

I should note though, that the overall mix is slightly
different than the hit because they made these Karaoke
cd's from the session tapes, so each mixdown on the set
is a little different from it's standard mix. Some things
are panned differently, etc.
But it would work real nice for a new clean mix from all
digital source material.

Oh, more interesting thing about the 2-track vocal
version on this set. Her entire vocal is totally
isolated, until you get to the spoken part. In that
segment, the backing track is suddenly in both channels.
They had to synchronize that part by dropping it in from
the standard mix. As soon as it finishes, it returns to
her isolated vocal. All that means is that the spoken
part was added later to the overall mix as an
afterthought, but it is missing from the original
session.

MM ]]> Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:40:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39515&title=charlene-from-1982#39515 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39504&title=charlene-from-1982#39504 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 3517
Posted: 26 October 2013 at 8:26am

Has the version with the instrumental break ever been on any CD? Also, what exactly is the timing difference?]]> Sat, 26 Oct 2013 08:26:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39504&title=charlene-from-1982#39504 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39500&title=charlene-from-1982#39500 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 3517
Posted: 25 October 2013 at 8:48pm

crapfromthepast wrote: Discovered that the break that features the spoken part is longer on the commercial 45/LP version than on the promo 45 talk-removed version. It's what accounts for the difference in length between the two. The fade points are the same.

That's right. The non-spoken version is shorter by a third of the time. I reflected that in my custom edit I made using the instrumental. That's how I remembered it from CHSC back in 1982. I never found the LP so I'm making due with my own edit.

The only issue was making sure the "S" in her sung pickup "...Sometimes I've been to crying for unborn children...." didn't sound overlapped with with the end of the spoken portion, "That's truth; that's loooove"... So my "S" on "sometimes" may sound a little truncated.

]]> Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:48:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39500&title=charlene-from-1982#39500 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39499&title=charlene-from-1982#39499 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 3517
Posted: 25 October 2013 at 7:26pm

Discovered that the break that features the spoken part is
longer on the commercial 45/LP version than on the promo 45
talk-removed version. It's what accounts for the
difference in length between the two. The fade points are
the same.

I also discovered that Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol.
10 From The Heart (1997) is a differently-EQ'd digital
clone of Motown's 20 Hard to Find Motown Classics Vol.
2 (1986). Both feature the 1982 hit commercial 45/LP
version, with the spoken part.]]> Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:26:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=39499&title=charlene-from-1982#39499 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=20655&title=charlene-from-1982#20655 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 3517
Posted: 21 January 2009 at 5:36pm

I actually downloaded an instrumental MP3 of Charlene, and edited it together with my 45-rpm disc (stock single). So I have a "no spoken words" version now.

]]> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=20655&title=charlene-from-1982#20655 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=20595&title=charlene-from-1982#20595 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3517
Posted: 18 January 2009 at 12:19am

Bill Cahill wrote: The Special Edited version on that DJ 45 in 1982 matches the original 1977 LP verion of the song. The track was issued on the 1977 Charlene album "Songs of Love". Track two on side one, with no spoken section. That LP was on Prodigal (Motown)

In case you're looking for this, do not get confused by the 1976 self-titled LP, also on Prodigal, which has almost the same track listing as the 1977 "Songs Of Love" LP. "I've Never Been To Me," which is also cut 2 on side 1, does have the spoken section in the middle. Apparently, the original LP version (from self-titled) is the same as the 1982 LP version.]]> Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:19:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3517&PID=20595&title=charlene-from-1982#20595