https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 01:53:36 +0000 Thu, 17 May 2018 18:09:46 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3575 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49331&title=chici-want-your-love#49331 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3575
Posted: 17 May 2018 at 6:09pm

Here's a video I found where they lip sync. It sounds
faster and appears to run 3:23.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=FJFwxE6IAsE

As mentioned on the BSN forum, if you use Hooktube instead
of YouTube, you have access to videos blocked elsewhere.
]]> Thu, 17 May 2018 18:09:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49331&title=chici-want-your-love#49331 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49330&title=chici-want-your-love#49330 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3575
Posted: 17 May 2018 at 6:02pm

The database still says all the 3:29 version run too slow,
yet I haven't been able to find a dub of the 45 on
YouTube.]]> Thu, 17 May 2018 18:02:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49330&title=chici-want-your-love#49330 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49329&title=chici-want-your-love#49329 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3575
Posted: 17 May 2018 at 6:01pm

crapfromthepast wrote: Edit: I now doubt that the 45 version CDs that I noted above run slow. They're the same tempo as the LP versions. It's more likely that they're faded at different points than the 45.

I just found this video on YouTube from a vinyl greatest
hits and it appears to run 3:29.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xLFc2fky0
]]> Thu, 17 May 2018 18:01:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49329&title=chici-want-your-love#49329 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49324&title=chici-want-your-love#49324 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 3575
Posted: 17 May 2018 at 3:33am

It's been years, but I finally dug out my pristine 1978
Atlantic 45 and found that it was sped up a bit.

What I think happened is that after Atlantic edited the
album mix, they sped it up a bit for the 45. Everyone in
the CD age has used the edit, but not the sped up edit.

What could also have happened is that the edited master
was sped up during the disc-cutting process, and that's
why the actual sped-up single edit never made it to
digital.]]> Thu, 17 May 2018 03:33:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49324&title=chici-want-your-love#49324 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49218&title=chici-want-your-love#49218 Author: Ringmaster_D
Subject: 3575
Posted: 22 April 2018 at 5:59pm

Did anyone ever get around to comparing the "slow" 45
versions with an actual 45 to determine if we truly have
a speed issue or perhaps different fade points?]]> Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:59:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=49218&title=chici-want-your-love#49218 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40517&title=chici-want-your-love#40517 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 3575
Posted: 13 February 2014 at 9:08pm

jimct wrote: My commercial 45, confirmed as Atlantic 3557, has a listed time of (3:28), but an actual time of (3:23). All 9 of the current database CDs for this song that specify "45 version" state a run time of either (3:28) or (3:29), so we will need to compare the actual 45 vs. these CDs, to get to the actual truth here.

   
I found my 45. Yup. It times out at precisely 3:23. I
guess my turntable was off when I checked years before. ]]> Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:08:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40517&title=chici-want-your-love#40517 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40435&title=chici-want-your-love#40435 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 3575
Posted: 03 February 2014 at 1:34pm

I cannot find my copy of "I Want Your Love" right now, but
I remember the comparison I made. I am comfortable that
my 45 matches up with the 45 version on CD.    

I can put my hands on my 45 of "Le Freak" and give you the
deadwax number. It was pressed on vinyl (off center, I
might add: ST - A - 35737 - 1 It was pressed at the
Specialty Records Corp., Olyphant, PA.]]> Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:34:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40435&title=chici-want-your-love#40435 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40432&title=chici-want-your-love#40432 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 3575
Posted: 02 February 2014 at 10:37pm

Hykker wrote: Of course, that's not always definitive either, since some labels (Atlantic being one of them) pressed promos at multiple plants too...west coast ones, for example were Monarch pressings (often on styrene), while east coast ones were on vinyl. So we could see the same timing differences between promos as well.

Steve, in my experience, Atlantic was one label that almost always sent cuttings done at one mastering facility (usually Atlantic Studios) to all of its contracted U.S. plants, rather than tape copies. In a few cases, metal parts utilized at different plants were sourced from the very same mother (i.e., identically-matched deadwax matrix numbers and suffixes and groove pattern characteristics showing up on, say, both Monarch and Specialty pressings of a given 45. Monarch and Specialty would, of course, add their own logo imprints to the deadwax.)

In many cases, the Atlantic Studios lacquers were sent to Long Wear (the "LW" often seen in the deadwax), which made the metal parts and then sent them to each pressing plant. If anything, this tended to standardize Atlantic product on a national scale, rather than open up the possibility of mastering anomalies between the various plants.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:37:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40432&title=chici-want-your-love#40432 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40431&title=chici-want-your-love#40431 Author: jimct
Subject: 3575
Posted: 02 February 2014 at 9:02pm

To each his own, Steve. Like I said to start my post, there is no cut and dried
answer. Sure, promo 45s can emanate from more than one pressing plant.
And slight timing differences can surely appear, as a result. I just happen to
default to that. Flawed or otherwise. I'm not saying I'm right, that it's a
foolproof solution, or that anyone else should necessarily do the same.

Ultimately, I recommended Bwci Bo use his own ear, among the various
officially submitted timings. Which clearly goes against what I do
personally......



Edited by jimct]]> Sun, 02 Feb 2014 21:02:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40431&title=chici-want-your-love#40431 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3575&PID=40430&title=chici-want-your-love#40430 Author: Hykker
Subject: 3575
Posted: 02 February 2014 at 3:14pm

jimct wrote: When I want to determine a "tie-breaker" in cases like this, I will usually take the actual timing of the promo 45. Because those were almost always the first 45 copies made.

Of course, that's not always definitive either, since
some labels (Atlantic being one of them) pressed promos
at multiple plants too...west coast ones, for example
were Monarch pressings (often on styrene), while east
coast ones were on vinyl. So we could see the same
timing differences between promos as well.

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