https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 12:45:28 +0000 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:42:44 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3739 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32210&title=survivor-destinys-child#32210 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3739
Posted: 17 December 2011 at 11:42pm

Thanks very much, cmmmbase!

So assuming the 4:00 version of "Survivor" I have on my Promo Only: Mainstream Radio DJ CD subscription series is the same as the commercial 45 release, I compared it to the 4:13 LP version and found a couple of differences. On the single version, the opening cymbal roll fade-in is slightly longer (by about 0.5 seconds) and sounds noticeably different than on the album version. The rest of the two recordings are identical up to the 4:00 mark where the vocals end cold and this is where the single version officially ends. However, at this point on the album version, there is less than :01 of silence proceeded by a final :12 of audio which sounds nothing like the rest of the song. The (silly) lyrics during this passage are:

I will survive being fine
I will survive being sexy
I will survive being BOOTYLICIOUS

In conclusion, "45 version" and "LP version" comments for "Surivior" will need to be added next to database CDs where appropriate. Meanwhile, I agree with Underground Dub that the 3:48 version that has surfaced on CD appears to have been edited specifically for Destiny's Child's #1s CD and therefore probably should have a "neither the 45 nor LP version" comment.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:42:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32210&title=survivor-destinys-child#32210 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32208&title=survivor-destinys-child#32208 Author: cmmmbase
Subject: 3739
Posted: 17 December 2011 at 8:23am

Just did a needle drop on the 45 (first time I've played it, actually). It timed out to 4:00, not the listed 4:14.]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:23:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32208&title=survivor-destinys-child#32208 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32206&title=survivor-destinys-child#32206 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3739
Posted: 16 December 2011 at 11:59pm

Just bumping this back up... Does anyone have the actual commercial 45 run time for Destiny's Child's "Survivor"?]]> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 23:59:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=32206&title=survivor-destinys-child#32206 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17109&title=survivor-destinys-child#17109 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 3739
Posted: 22 June 2008 at 11:57am

jimct wrote: Tood, ealier in this thread Brian kindly provided us with a scan of his listed (4:14) U.S. commercial 45, so shouldn't we use that as the official "45 baseline", my friend?

It's unfortunately isn't mine, just a photo I took from Ebay, which is why I didn't provide the actual running time.]]> Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:57:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17109&title=survivor-destinys-child#17109 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17073&title=survivor-destinys-child#17073 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3739
Posted: 21 June 2008 at 9:52am

Yes, Jim, I do agree that the vinyl 45 release should count as a "45 version" even though vinyl 45s were selling in such miniscule numbers in 2001 when "Survivor" was a hit.

I've gone back and revised the comments of my previous post accordingly.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:52:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17073&title=survivor-destinys-child#17073 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17071&title=survivor-destinys-child#17071 Author: jimct
Subject: 3739
Posted: 21 June 2008 at 9:17am

Tood, ealier in this thread Brian kindly provided us with a scan of his listed (4:14) U.S. commercial 45, so shouldn't we use that as the official "45 baseline", my friend?]]> Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:17:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17071&title=survivor-destinys-child#17071 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17066&title=survivor-destinys-child#17066 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3739
Posted: 21 June 2008 at 7:30am

Thanks, Paul, John, and Dub for your input. On the surface, it looks like CD appearances running 4:13 consist of the 45 and LP version/length, while CDs with a 3:59-4:00 run time feature the DJ edit (or DJ length if it's an early fade of the 4:13 length... I don't have the latter to compare). This all still needs to be 100% verified, however. And unless there's evidence to the contrary, a "neither the 45 nor LP version" notation should accompany CDs containing the 3:48 version.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:30:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17066&title=survivor-destinys-child#17066 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17062&title=survivor-destinys-child#17062 Author: Paul C
Subject: 3739
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 9:45pm

My U.S. promo CD has the following tracks (all times are stated times):

1. Album Version (4:01)
2. Instrumental (3:56)
3. A Cappella (3:37)

The first track runs 4:00 and is as eriejwg describes. It is clearly not the "Album Version" as claimed, since according to the database the song runs 4:13 on the Survivor CD. The album was not actually released until May 2001, two months after the song debuted on the Billboard Hot 100.]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:45:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17062&title=survivor-destinys-child#17062 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17061&title=survivor-destinys-child#17061 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3739
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 7:40pm

If it helps, the digital copy on Napster is labeled as the #1's Edit and runs 3:48. I think Underground Dub may be on to something regarding special edits for that CD.]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:40:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17061&title=survivor-destinys-child#17061 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17060&title=survivor-destinys-child#17060 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3739
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 6:37pm

The song runs 3:48 on two CDs and yet runs 3:59-4:00 on a couple of other discs. Are these shorter lengths the result of early fades? Edits? Different mixes? ]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:37:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3739&PID=17060&title=survivor-destinys-child#17060